Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Nelly-Torres 5,210]

I'm laughing about the "I don't condone" the actions of Israel bit. Weasely weaseling of the highest order. 

 

How about condemning them and remove all ambiguity? Apartheid, war crimes and all?

[skend04 1,765]

55 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Immigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19
2nd reading: House of Commons 28.01.2019
A bill to make provision to end rights to free movement of persons under retained EU law and to repeal other retained EU law relating to immigration; to confer power to modify retained direct EU legislation relating to social security coordination; and for connected purposes.

 

Seems like a ghastly bill, worthy of anyone's opposition.

 

It's the equivalent of Windrush for EU citizens as well as finally stripping our own rights. Abstaining is an embarrassment.

[skend04 1,765]

26 minutes ago, skend04 said:

It's the equivalent of Windrush for EU citizens as well as finally stripping our own rights. Abstaining is an embarrassment.

Now being whipped to vote against the bill. Better late than never.

[moof 5,407]

There’s absolutely no excuse to not vote against that shite. Glad they’ve seen sense 

[Chris 457]

Can anyone tell my why, having vowed not to talk until No Deal was taken off the table, it appears as if Corbyn/Labour won't be supporting the Yvette Cooper amendment that could stop a No Deal outcome?

[mattyq 1,425]

2 minutes ago, Chris said:

Can anyone tell my why, having vowed not to talk until No Deal was taken off the table, it appears as if Corbyn/Labour won't be supporting the Yvette Cooper amendment that could stop a No Deal outcome?

Corbyn's lost it completely; this disgusts me. I just can't see the sense in it. None whatsoever. Why wouldn't you vote against a No deal Brexit? 

[moof 5,407]

8 minutes ago, Chris said:

Can anyone tell my why, having vowed not to talk until No Deal was taken off the table, it appears as if Corbyn/Labour won't be supporting the Yvette Cooper amendment that could stop a No Deal outcome?

Link?

[Numero Veinticinco 5,000]

17 minutes ago, Chris said:

Can anyone tell my why, having vowed not to talk until No Deal was taken off the table, it appears as if Corbyn/Labour won't be supporting the Yvette Cooper amendment that could stop a No Deal outcome?

What’s this now?

[moof 5,407]

6 minutes ago, moof said:

Link?

Never mind

 

 

As far as I’m aware, labour’s policy is to not look for an extension to article 50, they want an amendment to this bill that shortens the proposed extension. It’s quite clear their policy is to avoid a no deal scenario 

[Rico1304 5,045]

The archangels Bragg and Jones aren’t happy.  3D chess though. 

[moof 5,407]

16 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Corbyn's lost it completely; this disgusts me. I just can't see the sense in it. None whatsoever. Why wouldn't you vote against a No deal Brexit? 

Bit of an overreaction that

[Numero Veinticinco 5,000]

14 minutes ago, moof said:

Bit of an overreaction that

Especially considering it’s not decided yet, according to what I’m reading. 

[mattyq 1,425]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/28/labour-support-for-yvette-coopers-brexit-amendment-in-doubt

 

If he doesn't back it then the chances of crashing out on No Deal rises significantly. It's incredibly dangerous 

[Chris 457]

1 minute ago, mattyq said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/28/labour-support-for-yvette-coopers-brexit-amendment-in-doubt

 

If he doesn't back it then the chances of crashing out on No Deal rises significantly. It's incredibly dangerous 

 

That's the link, yep. Sorry. So... any thoughts on the rationale for that? 

[cloggypop 8,673]

Let's see what happens first 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/23/labour-whip-ready-back-yvette-cooper-no-deal-brexit-amendment

[Numero Veinticinco 5,000]

Alright guys. Let’s just fuck this whole thing off. 

[AngryofTuebrook 14,056]

2 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Alright guys. Let’s just fuck this whole thing off. 

"You say tomaytoes, I say rat

  You say potatoes, I say rat again..."

[Rico1304 5,045]

So, what happened? 

[Numero Veinticinco 5,000]

Probably need to wait until they’ve had the vote, Skippy. Update your podcast stream, Mr. Current Affairs. 

[AngryofTuebrook 14,056]

14 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Immigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19
2nd reading: House of Commons 28.01.2019
A bill to make provision to end rights to free movement of persons under retained EU law and to repeal other retained EU law relating to immigration; to confer power to modify retained direct EU legislation relating to social security coordination; and for connected purposes.

 

Seems like a ghastly bill, worthy of anyone's opposition.

 

It is, indeed. And Labour oppose it.

 

Here's an explanation of Labour's tactics.  (NB - It's from Skwawkbox, so feel free to ignore it and carry on with assumptions based on your own anti-Socialist prejudices. )

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2019/01/28/why-labour-wasnt-whipping-mps-on-immigration-bill-and-why-it-then-did/?fbclid=IwAR1FNX-16NExc5QaDliD6nhwXTcVAyk3ZRBhB_oaxXEISdMsDduXTc6sszI

 

[Rico1304 5,045]

So the government would have lost?  More 3D chess.  

[AngryofTuebrook 14,056]

2 minutes ago, rico1304 said:

So the government would have lost?  

It literally says the opposite. 

 

More 3D bullshit. 

[Rico1304 5,045]

33 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

It literally says the opposite. 

 

More 3D bullshit. 

I didn’t read the article hence the question.  

[AngryofTuebrook 14,056]

1 hour ago, rico1304 said:

I didn’t read the article hence the question.  

 

2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

 (NB - It's from Skwawkbox, so feel free to ignore it and carry on with assumptions based on your own anti-Socialist prejudices. )

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco 5,000]

Haha.