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1 hour ago, Nelly-Torres said:

 

Anxiety sufferer. Had blocked Riley. Riley was still snooping at her Twitter feed. Asked her to stop tweeting about her as she was getting loads of abuse from her followers. 

 

Call it bullying. Don't call it bullying. It was a shitty thing to do. 

 

 

It was bullying. Tracy O gegged in on it too, until the girl’s dad reported it all to the police.

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4 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Portman is Jewish but she's a bad Jew.

She refused to accept an award off Netanyahu because of the deaths in Gaza so was branded 'antisimetic' and there were calls to have her Israeli citizenship revoked.

And to think I was considering putting my cock inside her. 

 

I need to vet these girls more carefully in future. 

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11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

No, it's a fact. Read the Hamas charter. Listen to what the leader of Hezbollah says. These are people Corbyn is happy to associate with. Shame on you for denying it.

That's not what you said. 

 

What you said was a lie. Like too many anti-Corbyn obsessives you are inventing charges of anti-Semitism against him and ignoring real anti-Semitism elsewhere.  It's a cunt's trick, but it's nothing new and nothing I post will make you think twice about the shit your slinging.

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2 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Yeah. It's all about Corbyn. 

 

Nothing to do with Chomsky. Nothing to do with bullying kids on Twitter. And revealing her dad's identity. Nothing about falsely linking criticism of Israel with antisemitism. Nothing about her calling out abuse but being very abusive herself. Nothing about her own antisemitic remarks. Nothing about her portraying herself as a fervent antisemitism campaigner but continuing to work with Jimmy Carr or continuing to give the benefit of the doubt too or completely ignore right wing antisemitism. Or today's Owen Jones meltdown - and her remarkable ability in the space of 2 or 3 tweets from her first unsolicited tweet to Jones to try and sway the narrative to her being the bullied party, despite Jones not even interacting with her in the first place.

None of that. It's all about her not liking Corbyn.

 

Not a cunt, though...

Wait. What? Back the fuck up. Owen Jones has had a meltdown? 

 

That is unexpected. 

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4 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Wait. What? Back the fuck up. Owen Jones has had a meltdown? 

 

That is unexpected. 

Sorry. Could've made it a bit clearer. Riley had a meltdown over Owen Jones. 

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14 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Portman is Jewish but she's a bad Jew.

She refused to accept an award off Netanyahu because of the deaths in Gaza so was branded 'antisimetic' and there were calls to have her Israeli citizenship revoked.

She should have sent Keira Knightley as a decoy. 

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30 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

The irony when the Israelis are committing genocide to Palestinians. You are in bed with evil. 

 

What the actual fuck are you talking about? I don't condone the excesses of the Israeli government.

 

It's almost as if there's a middle ground between supporting Netanyahu and supporting genocidal maniacs like Hamas...

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25 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

That's not what you said. 

 

What you said was a lie. Like too many anti-Corbyn obsessives you are inventing charges of anti-Semitism against him and ignoring real anti-Semitism elsewhere.  It's a cunt's trick, but it's nothing new and nothing I post will make you think twice about the shit your slinging.

 

It's exactly what I said. He has met them in solidarity on many occasions. He called them his friends. That is a fact. I wish it wasn't, because it would be great to be able to count on the leader of the fucking Labour Party as a reliable opponent of anti-semitism, but there we are. Not one ounce of any of that contradicts anything I have written.

 

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7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

What the actual fuck are you talking about? I don't condone the excesses of the Israeli government.

 

It's almost as if there's a middle ground between supporting Netanyahu and supporting genocidal maniacs like Hamas...

I am sure Corbyn doesn't condone killing in retaliation to a genocidal maniac state like Israel. Wouldn't you agree? 

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3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I am sure Corbyn doesn't condone killing in retaliation to a genocidal maniac state like Israel. Wouldn't you agree? 

 

He's awfully pally with people who want to commit genocide against Jews, isn't he.

 

And stop misusing "genocidal". It's not the same as oppression.

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2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

He's awfully pally with people who want to commit genocide against Jews, isn't he.

 

And stop misusing "genocidal". It's not the same as oppression.

You are one brainwashed, deluded fucker SD. Wanting to commit genocide and actually committing genocide are two completely different things. You are on the wrong side of that. 

 

And how is he awfully pally? Wanting both sides of an argument to be brought to the table when people are dying? What a cunt of a man he is. 

 

You are losing this one so I suggest fucking off out of the thread instead of crop-dusting your bad smell all over the place. 

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2 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Riely reminds me of one of those birds you'd get talking to in a kebab shop after a night out and would be nice at first but then go proper apeshit and try and get you beaten up before being dragged away by her friends in tears. 

We've all been there. Maybe it was the drink in me, or I was intoxicated by the moonlight shimmering across her Charlton Athletic arse tattoo, as she squatted to piss down a drain hole in the car park, but I was smitten.

 

Ah, young love.

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4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

You are one brainwashed, deluded fucker SD. Wanting to commit genocide and actually committing genocide are two completely different things. You are on the wrong side of that. 

 

Fucking hell.

 

I highly recommend a book on the Middle East conflict. Any one of them. In fact, just any book. On anything.

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5 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Fucking hell.

 

I highly recommend a book on the Middle East conflict. Any one of them. In fact, just any book. On anything.

What do you mean fucking hell? How can you say that Corbyn is awfully pally with them? On what evidence? he met with them? Netanyahu is a fucking murdering cunt. Corbyn isn't. 

 

I read everyday. The Beano, Viz, The Dandy..... I could go on.

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6 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

He is literally friendly with people who want to exterminate every Jew on the planet.

 

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

No, it's a fact. Read the Hamas charter. Listen to what the leader of Hezbollah says. These are people Corbyn is happy to associate with. Shame on you for denying it.

I've just skimmed through the Hamas Charter.  Here it is. 

 

https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818.htm

 

It's undoubtedly horrible in its proliferation of anti-Semitic tropes, conflation of Zionists and Jews and its religious fundamentalism, but (as far as I can see) it's not genocidal.  On the contrary, it specifically says that Muslims, Jews and Christians can safely coexist  (provided the Muslims call the shots, of course; this is religious fundamentalism, after all).

 

Like I say, it's pretty nasty, but there's no point lying and pretending it's worse than it is. That sort of dishonesty just weakens whatever point you're trying to make.

 

So, what your original post should have said was "He literally used the word 'friends' to address a mixed crowd, whose members included representatives from an organisation whose founding charter references loads of anti-Semitic tropes."

 

("Shame on you" - you're fucking hilarious when you get pompous.)

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45 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

He's awfully pally with people who want to commit genocide against Jews, isn't he.

 

 

No. You're lying again. 

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8 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

 

I've just skimmed through the Hamas Charter.  Here it is. 

 

https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818.htm

 

It's undoubtedly horrible in its proliferation of anti-Semitic tropes, conflation of Zionists and Jews and its religious fundamentalism, but (as far as I can see) it's not genocidal.

 

"But even if the links have become distant from each other, and even if the obstacles erected by those who revolve in the Zionist orbit, aiming at obstructing the road before the Jihad fighters, have rendered the pursuance of Jihad impossible; nevertheless, the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah's promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said:

 

The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: 0 Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"

 

And then you look at the other things they say:

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/senior-hamas-member-calls-for-ridding-palestine-of-filth-of-the-jews/

 

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A senior member of the Hamas terror group which governs the Gaza Strip gave an address last week in which he called to rid “Palestine of the filth of the Jews” and vowed it would happen by 2022.

 

In a video of the July 12 rally, aired on Al-Jazeera and translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, former Hamas interior minister Fathi Hammad said: “We are looking forward to two important things which are within sight.”

The first was “the cleansing of Palestine of the filth of the Jews, and their uprooting from it,” which he promised would happen imminently. “Four years, my brothers… By 2022 we will be rid of them,” he said.

The second goal Hammad called for was the establishment of an Islamic caliphate “once the nation has been healed of its cancer — the Jews.”

 

I mean they literally use the word "cleansing". In what sense is this not genocidal?

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2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

I mean they literally use the word "cleansing". In what sense is this not genocidal?

Context SD, Context. I hope they eradicate all jewish settlers from their land by 2022. Preferably without force.

 

Wanting to retaliate to years of oppression and actual genocide isn't that shockable. 

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Just now, Bjornebye said:

Context SD, Context. I hope they eradicate all jewish settlers from their land by 2022. Preferably without force.

 

Wanting to retaliate to years of oppression and your own new favourite word 'genocide' isn't that shockable. 

 

No, they aim to eradicate all Jews from Palestine, which includes Israel. That is genocide.

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Just now, Strontium Dog said:

 

No, they aim to eradicate all Jews from Palestine, which includes Israel. That is genocide.

Or maybe they might just knock on their own homes, politely ask for them back and hope that they will leave and give them back to their rightful owners. you know, without using gunboats to shoot Palestinian kids playing on the beach. 

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7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

No, they aim to eradicate all Jews from Palestine, which includes Israel. That is genocide.

That's not what the Charter says.

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3 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

That's not what the Charter says.

 

Well, yes it is. It's undeniable. And their spokespeople, like Fathi Hammad, make it abundantly clear, time and time again.

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6 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

That's not what the Charter says.

The truth doesn't get in the way when it comes to SD. But you knew that anyway. 

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11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

No, they aim to eradicate all Jews from Palestine, which includes Israel. That is genocide.

So...

 

1.  Corbyn is not "literally friendly" with the Hamas bloke you quoted.

 

2.  Even that cunt was talking about getting the Jews out of Palestine;  not wanting to "exterminate every Jew on the planet."

 

You lied. You got caught. Just admit it and move on. 

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