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57 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

The much maligned Alastair Campbell did that very well, the massive cunt. 

He did the shouting and bullying, but was it really that effective? The bottom line is that New Labour did the bidding of the Murdoch papers, not the other way round. 

 

Even Tucker was a washed-up relic of a bygone age by the last episode. 

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1 hour ago, mattyq said:

Mate, this just isn't true

PMQs last week what does he go on about the day after May's colossal fuck up? Something other than Brexit which everybody has forgotten about

Have you seen the latest Labour amendment? It's shit

The latest amendment is the Labour policy agreed at Conference!

 

As for PMQs, I'm not one of the dozen or so people outside Westminster who watch it, so I don't know what was said.

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10 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

He did the shouting and bullying, but was it really that effective? The bottom line is that New Labour did the bidding of the Murdoch papers, not the other way round. 

 

Even Tucker was a washed-up relic of a bygone age by the last episode. 

 

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I like Corbyn, a lot but I doubt very much he will ever be PM. Labour itself is in a strong position right now and a stronger leader should see them elected. I like Burnham personally. 

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7 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I like Corbyn, a lot but I doubt very much he will ever be PM. Labour itself is in a strong position right now and a stronger leader should see them elected. I like Burnham personally. 

He got snotted by Corbyn.

 

He's a weathervane, and he looks like a fucking mannequin.

 

The membership are not voting for someone like Burnham.

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The membership are out of touch with the average voter. The membership don't understand that power is more important than principle. Labour are the political version of Everton.

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I reckon Burnham will be back and took the Mayor's job to build his brand away from Westminster, same for Khan to a lesser extent and Steely Eyed Dan, messenger of death over in Sheffield.

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43 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Do you mean David?

Did I say David?

 

I think 2015 was pivotal, Cameron sold the country (and his own political career) down the river.  If it wasn't for an extensive smear campaign from the tabloids we'd be much better off right now.  Ever since he's shown himself to be a class above the skeleton tory party we've been left with.

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1 hour ago, Boss said:

The membership are out of touch with the average voter. The membership don't understand that power is more important than principle. Labour are the political version of Everton.

"These opinions are brought to you by 2016.

 

2016 - The year that had no clue what the 2017 General Election would bring."

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1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

"These opinions are brought to you by 2016.

 

2016 - The year that had no clue what the 2017 General Election would bring."

 

What the election that Labour lost?

 

"We don't have to be a winner to be a winner, but we are a winner".

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1 hour ago, Pidge said:

Did I say David?

 

I think 2015 was pivotal, Cameron sold the country (and his own political career) down the river.  If it wasn't for an extensive smear campaign from the tabloids we'd be much better off right now.  Ever since he's shown himself to be a class above the skeleton tory party we've been left with.

Ed Milliband didn't help himself, by trying to cosy up to The S*n and coming out with that "Control immigration" shit.  He should have trusted to what his dad would have done and come out swinging.

 

Mind you, even if he had, we would now all be bemoaning the fact that he's so ineffective, because the media keep saying he's shit.

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1 minute ago, Boss said:

 

What the election that Labour lost?

 

"We don't have to be a winner to be a winner, but we are a winner".

Do you think Labour would have been all poised to win, if not for Corbyn?

 

It was the election that was called specifically to "crush" Labour - and even the "centrists" and "moderates" in the PLP and the NEC worked towards that goal, so desperate were they to get rid of the threat of democratic Socialism - and that saw Corbyn, almost single-handedly, wipe out May's majority.

 

If you want a football analogy, your logic suggests that Luis Suarez is shit because Liverpool won nothing in 2013-14.

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7 hours ago, Pidge said:

Personally I feel Ed Miliband was a huge missed opportunity. 

 

He's a decent man unlike his cunt of a brother who would defo go full Clegg and destroy a political party. But Ed Miliband had poor political decision making and judgement on a monumental scale. From the people he surrounded himself with to some of the policy choices. Where he ended up with is not where he started. That Obama fella they hired basically called the Miliband team low energy and said their strategy was akin to vote Labour get a free microwave.

 

Even though Ed Miliband is more to the left than the likes of Burnham and Cooper they share one huge common failing. They all subscribe to there is a way politics has to be done. One of the disappointing things reading a few posts by people I like on here is Labour supporters subscribing to the PPE Westminster way of doing politics. 

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8 hours ago, Pidge said:

Personally I feel Ed Miliband was a huge missed opportunity. 

But he ate that bacon butty and looked all funny for a millisecond while doing so, people won't vote for that. Sky news had no unofficial recordings to sway the electorate with this time so someone had to step in and warn us about the dangers of the way he eats. 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

No you said Ed, which is why I thought you’d meant David given the fact that, y’know Ed had actually been leader

... and hadn't fulfilled his potential: hence, a missed opportunity. 

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If Corbyn goes then say goodbye to any left wing policies that come with him.  Do people never learn?  Picking some middle class 50 year old white fella because he’s more likely to get votes is what got us into the mess we are in today.  Despite the absolutely massive membership the odds are firmly stacked in the right wing side of the party’s favour.  They will never make the same mistake again of having someone who is economically left wing on the leadership ballot until the rules are changed significantly and the constituencies can pick their own candidates from scratch.

 

The further right wing the Labour Party becomes economically then the further right the tories can push their own agenda.  It’s not rocket science and this delusion that winning is the only thing that matters is quite frankly laughable.  Winning is huge but only if you’re willing to change things if you do win.

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23 minutes ago, The Guest said:

If Corbyn goes then say goodbye to any left wing policies that come with him.  Do people never learn?  Picking some middle class 50 year old white fella because he’s more likely to get votes is what got us into the mess we are in today.  Despite the absolutely massive membership the odds are firmly stacked in the right wing side of the party’s favour.  They will never make the same mistake again of having someone who is economically left wing on the leadership ballot until the rules are changed significantly and the constituencies can pick their own candidates from scratch.

 

The further right wing the Labour Party becomes economically then the further right the tories can push their own agenda.  It’s not rocket science and this delusion that winning is the only thing that matters is quite frankly laughable.  Winning is huge but only if you’re willing to change things if you do win.

 

Agreed.

 

And, furthermore, the country is such that a robot that does that thumb thing wouldn't work now. It had a shelf life.

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