Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Numero 6,912]

1 minute ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yeah, always had you down as a Tribune fan.

Why’s that then? 

[Red Phoenix 1,896]

2 minutes ago, Numero said:

Why’s that then? 

 

No I'm not arguing with you. You called it a blog post, I had a dig back, now I'm off. Argue with someone else instead.

[Numero 6,912]

5 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

No I'm not arguing with you. You called it a blog post, I had a dig back, now I'm off. Argue with someone else instead.

I called it a blog post because it’s on their blog. Of course you’re not willing to back up what you said, because you can’t. It’s disgusting. This is the problem with you lot, you see being accurate as an insult that you have to have a dig over. My unwillingness to bend reality to fit your narrative is actually offensive to you. It’s fucking bizarre. 
 

Anyway. Here’s the blog for that site. Imagine calling the first blog post on the blog a ‘blog post’. What a right wing thing to do. 
 

https://tribunemag.co.uk/blog

 

Edit: By the way, the reasonable, mature, honest thing to do now is say ‘oh, I didn’t realise it was on the blog. Sorry’. I look forward to ‘I’m not part of the problem’, and ‘go pick on someone else’. 

 

[Scooby Dudek 1,637]

50 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

 

"If you dont like JC"

 

That's a lie I love Jesus Christ.

 

 

 

I'll get me coat.

 

 

What's the Jewish Chronicle ever done to you ? 

[Gnasher 1,685]

21 minutes ago, Numero said:

But you’ve said it multiple times, and you’ve never pointed to anything I’ve done or said that’s right-wing. As a Jovah’s Witness, you shouldn’t be doing things like that. 

Ok soz. Have a good ol Shaky tune courtesy of Cloggy to cheer you up

 

 

 

[Red Phoenix 1,896]

20 minutes ago, Numero said:

I called it a blog post because it’s on their blog. Of course you’re not willing to back up what you said, because you can’t. It’s disgusting. This is the problem with you lot, you see being accurate as an insult that you have to have a dig over. My unwillingness to bend reality to fit your narrative is actually offensive to you. It’s fucking bizarre. 
 

Anyway. Here’s the blog for that site. Imagine calling the first blog post on the blog a ‘blog post’. What a right wing thing to do. 
 

https://tribunemag.co.uk/blog

 

Edit: By the way, the reasonable, mature, honest thing to do now is say ‘oh, I didn’t realise it was on the blog. Sorry’. I look forward to ‘I’m not part of the problem’, and ‘go pick on someone else’. 

 

 

I didn't even realise they had a blog so fair enough and sorry. I clicked on the article at Tribune magazine and thought of it as a magazine article, (edit : which is my mistake seeing as the magazine is separate.) It's a common thing with you too though to reduce things you don't like to just a "blog post" as if it dismisses anything in it. So fucking what if it's a blog post? It's probably more accurate and relevant than most of the shite the mainstream media are saying.

 

It doesn't support Keir though so it's just a "blog post." Dismiss the whole lot along with so many other reports of Starmer having made a fucking mess of things and bend reality to fit your own narrative instead. Have fun.

[Numero 6,912]

7 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I didn't even realise they had a blog so fair enough and sorry. I clicked on the article at Tribune magazine and thought of it as a magazine article, which is probably is too really. It's a common thing with you too though to reduce things you don't like to just a "blog post" as if it dismisses anything in it. So fucking what if it's a blog post? It's probably more accurate and relevant than most of the shite the mainstream media are saying.

 

It doesn't support Keir though so it's just a "blog post." Dismiss the whole lot along with so many other reports of Starmer having made a fucking mess of things and bend reality to fit your own narrative instead. Have fun.

It really does undermine the apology when you follow it by doubling down on the bollocks. I didn’t dismiss it because it’s a blog post. I called it a blog post because it’s a blog post. I dismissed it because I think it’s a terrible blog post. I’m not bending reality I’m just calling a blog post that’s a post on their blog a blog post. 

[Red Phoenix 1,896]

10 minutes ago, Numero said:

It really does undermine the apology when you follow it by doubling down on the bollocks. I didn’t dismiss it because it’s a blog post. I called it a blog post because it’s a blog post. I dismissed it because I think it’s a terrible blog post. I’m not bending reality I’m just calling a blog post that’s a post on their blog a blog post. 

 

I wasn't referring to you bending reality by calling a blog post a blog post. I meant the way you dismiss almost anything negative about Starmer and prefer instead to argue with people that support Corbyn by the looks of it.

 

Maybe have a go at one or more of the points in the actual blog post itself if you don't like it instead of just calling it terrible and a blog post without touching on any content at all. If you'd have done that in the first place it might have saved some time and energy.

[Numero 6,912]

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

 

I wasn't referring to you bending reality by calling a blog post a blog post. I meant the way you dismiss almost anything negative about Starmer and prefer instead to argue with people that support Corbyn by the looks of it.

 

Maybe have a go at one of more of the points in the actual blog post itself if you don't like it instead of just calling it terrible and a blog post without touching on any content at all. If you'd have done that in the first place it might have saved some time and energy.

How does dismissing it bend reality? RP, you’re literally just quoting back something I’ve just said to you without thinking about it. It’s one step away from ‘no, you are’. 
 

As for responding to the entire fuckin’ blog post, is there something specific you want a response to, because I’m not spending three hours responding to every single line and getting sources for everything just to be ignored. 

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26 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I didn't even realise they had a blog so fair enough and sorry. I clicked on the article at Tribune magazine and thought of it as a magazine article, (edit : which is my mistake seeing as the magazine is separate.) It's a common thing with you too though to reduce things you don't like to just a "blog post" as if it dismisses anything in it. So fucking what if it's a blog post? It's probably more accurate and relevant than most of the shite the mainstream media are saying.

 

It doesn't support Keir though so it's just a "blog post." Dismiss the whole lot along with so many other reports of Starmer having made a fucking mess of things and bend reality to fit your own narrative instead. Have fun.

Same works for ‘Podcast’. Oh, it’s a podcast, must be bollocks. Or turn you right wing. 

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Blog blerts

[Red Phoenix 1,896]

1 minute ago, Numero said:

As for responding to the entire fuckin’ blog post, is there something specific you want a response to, because I’m not spending three hours responding to every single line and getting sources for everything just to be ignored. 

 

Nope not really bothered, I was just linking it for others to read if they wanted to.

[Numero 6,912]

3 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Same works for ‘Podcast’. Oh, it’s a podcast, must be bollocks. Or turn you right wing. 

No, no. Let’s not be dishonest. Nobody has an issue with podcasts or blogs. People have an issue when you only get your information from podcasts or blogs or twitter. Podcasts and blogs and twitter can range from insightful, specialist commentators who are experts in their field, to the more usual bloke down the pub who has no deep understanding about any issues he’s bleating about. 
 

Read a fuckin’ textbook once in a while, guys. 

[Gnasher 1,685]

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Nope not really bothered, I was just linking it for others to read if they wanted to.

I enjoyed and agreed with most of the article*. I thought Starmer was the right man for the job but then the other candidates were piss poor. I just dont see the need for him to fight a needless fight against Corbyn which has already been won, the anti semitism issue has been addressed. Its futile and draining. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* sorry blog.

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3 minutes ago, Numero said:

Podcasts and blogs and twitter can range from insightful, specialist commentators who are experts in their field, to the more usual bloke down the pub who has no deep understanding about any issues he’s bleating about. 
 

Read a fuckin’ textbook once in a while, guys. 

 

I think the editor of Tribune that wrote the "blog post" I linked has a decent enough understanding of what's going on. Feel free to disagree though, which you surely will.

[Red Phoenix 1,896]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

I enjoyed and agreed with most of the article*. I thought Starmer was the right man for the job but then the other candidates were piss poor. I just dont see the need for him to fight a needless fight against Corbyn which has already been won, the anti semitism issue has been addressed. Its futile and draining.

 

I preferred RLB but looking at the state of things I'm not sure how much better she'd have done. Labour's a real mess and it's hard to see how things will be resolved any time soon. If it carries on like this maybe a split is a real possibility.

[Numero 6,912]

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

I think the editor of Tribune that wrote the "blog post" I linked has a decent enough understanding of what's going on. Feel free to disagree though, which you surely will.

I think it’s a biased post based on his evident bias towards Corbyn that he has displayed through the blog. Blogs are great insofar as you don’t even have to pretend you have anything approaching a standard of impartiality, integrity, impartiality or, well, any standard at all. 

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The reasons lots of people are using blogs / podcasts more is obvious.ychanging technological needs  , but also tbe apparent abrogation of 'proper' journalists to even pretend to be even hsnded in their reports. 

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Hope sir roger is okay.

[Numero 6,912]

I enjoyed Rachel Swindon’s latest blog post. Might donate her some money. Doesn’t seem to be stirring up hatred for financial gain. At all. 

[Red Phoenix 1,896]

1 minute ago, Numero said:

I think it’s a biased post based on his evident bias towards Corbyn that he has displayed through the blog. Blogs are great insofar as you don’t even have to pretend you have anything approaching a standard of impartiality, integrity, impartiality or, well, any standard at all. 

 

He's mainly reporting on CLP's across the country supporting Corbyn having the whip reinstated from what I can see, even though party officials are trying to stop that from happening apparently. It doesn't seem like democracy in Labour is going too well if that's what's actually happening.

 

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31 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Hope sir roger is okay.

ha ha . bleeding new tablet.

[Scooby Dudek 1,637]

2 minutes ago, sir roger said:

ha ha . bleeding, new tablets.

Stop taking them then.

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https://skwawkbox.org/2020/11/19/starmers-suspension-of-corbyn-broke-parliamentary-party-rules-all-of-them/

 

Don't have a parliamentary rule book to hand ( easy to disprove if not true I assume ) but this seems odd with Starmer's legal background.

[Numero 6,912]

Wow, some of those comments are... interesting.