Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Red Phoenix]

 

[moof]

50 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I'm sure lefties here would be happy to accept that Trump is not a racist if we could find some black people who said he wasn't. 

You know, that’s really pathetic, even for you

[Rico1304]

44 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

 

Matron!!

 

I’ve never had a stalker before, I’m flattered he cares but fingers crossed he won’t end up in my back garden. Especially in this weather, he’d catch his death. 
 

my Twitter account must be the most boring thing in the world to look at though.  It’s mainly scientists and legal experts. Oh and me drunkenly mithering Lisa Snowden. 

[Strontium]

31 minutes ago, moof said:

You know, that’s really pathetic, even for you

 

It's the exact same logic being used to defend Corbyn - "Look, here are some Jews who say he isn't racist!"

 

I'm sorry you don't understand logic, and that certainly explains your political views.

[Red Phoenix]

31 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

It's the exact same logic being used to defend Corbyn - "Look, here are some Jews who say he isn't racist!"

 

I'm sorry you don't understand logic, and that certainly explains your political views.

 

But we only have to go back less than 48 hours to find Trump saying stuff that's more racist than anything anyone can find Corbyn saying throughout his entire career. And there's the little bit about him reviving white nationalism more than anyone else in recent history as US president too.

 

So if we get a group of black people defending Trump and a group of Jewish people defending Corbyn I get the feeling that we might find a little bit more logic coming from the latter group.

[aRdja]

There it is... “wrong type of jews”. Nice.

[moof]

38 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’ve never had a stalker before, I’m flattered he cares but fingers crossed he won’t end up in my back garden. Especially in this weather, he’d catch his death. 
 

my Twitter account must be the most boring thing in the world to look at though.  It’s mainly scientists and legal experts. Oh and me drunkenly mithering Lisa Snowden. 

Hahahahahaha good grief. “It’s mainly scientists and legal experts” 

 

you are by far the biggest twat I’ve ever encountered online. Sorry stronts 

[Strontium]

14 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

There it is... “wrong type of jews”. Nice.

 

Nobody said that, did they? In fact it was the exact opposite. I was pointing out that you're happy to trot out the "wrong type of ethnics" line when it's Trump or Boris catching flak.

[aRdja]

Lol. You definitely did there Stronts. But happy for you to deny it.

[Strontium]

You are beyond belief. I was literally doing the opposite of what you are claiming.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I'm sure lefties here would be happy to accept that Trump is not a racist if we could find some black people who said he wasn't. 

Risible fuckwittery.

[Strontium]

Yes, people keep saying things like that, but they strangely seem unable to dismantle my logic. Funny, that.

[moof]

6 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Yes, people keep saying things like that, but they strangely seem unable to dismantle my logic. Funny, that.

His logic is indestructible. His sanctimony is impenetrable. His vapidity is indefatigable. 
 

Is it a banana? Is it a New York taxi? Is it a daffodil? No! It’s Captain Liberty

[aRdja]

If the logic is the views of left wing jews don’t matter, then I suppose it’s hard to know where to even begin to try to dismantle it.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

41 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Yes, people keep saying things like that, but they strangely seem unable to dismantle my logic. Funny, that.

What fucking logic?

 

People call Trump racist because he says and does racist stuff all the time. No amount of "some of my friends are black" is going to alter that.

 

Some people call Corbyn anti-Semitic, but they've utterly failed to produce any evidence to back that up. Instead, the media round up as many Jewish opponents of Corbyn as possible and pretend that the noisy celebs represent all UK Jews - denying the existence or the Jewishness of Jewish Corbyn supporters. 

[Strontium]

The "show me the evidence" canard rears its ugly head once again.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

36 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

The "show me the evidence" canard rears its ugly head once again.

Beyond parody.

 

It's not a "canard" - it's the foundation of every system of justice worthy of the name. (I thought you were a supporter of Liberty - before Chakrabati broke your heart - so you should know this stuff. )

 

[TheHowieLama]

@AngryofTuebrook Does Corbyn have to step down if he loses? 

[Strontium]

It's not that, it's just this was addressed in the excellent article linked by Rico yesterday, which I rather foolishly assumed was read by more than just me:

 

Whenever people have asked me for “evidence” of Labour’s antisemitism I’ve baulked — not because it can’t be provided, but because it’s like saying “show me evidence of the patriarchy” and expecting an answer that fits into a soundbite. And also because those demanding evidence rarely genuinely want to see it when it’s provided.

[Bjornebye]

5 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

It's the exact same logic being used to defend Corbyn - "Look, here are some Jews who say he isn't racist!"

 

I'm sorry you don't understand logic, and that certainly explains your political views.

Do you think Corbyn is anti-semitic? yes or no 

[aRdja]

I could go with her approach I suppose, whenever anyone asks me to back up my claim. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Do you think Corbyn is anti-semitic? yes or no 

 

That's too complex a question to be answered by a simple yes or no response. But you knew that.

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, viRdjil said:

I could go with her approach I suppose, whenever anyone asks me to back up my claim. 

 

She backs it up with mountains of evidence in her article, which you clearly didn't read.

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

That's too complex a question to be answered by a simple yes or no response. But you knew that.

Nah -- thats a kop out Dog.

 

If you think he is, which you seem to, the answer is an easy yes.

If you feel some of his actions were/are, then it is still an easy yes.

Only after that would it become complex.

[cloggypop]

8 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

That's too complex a question to be answered by a simple yes or no response. But you knew that.

It's a simple yes from me to "is Boris Johnson a racist?". 

 

Same answer for Trump.