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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?


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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?  

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  1. 1. Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?



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35 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

I’m no fan of Corbyn but. I wish they’d stop doorstepping him outside his house every two minutes, it’s harassment and it’s clearly getting him down , he looked a bit distressed before, pack it the fuck in , not cool

One would almost suspect that's the point, interspersed with pictures of May leaving church. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

So you’re saying that Corbyn publicly backed Galloway over a Labour candidate before, during and after the election? 

 

Only after it. You know, like Campbell.

 

Charles Clarke has admitted voting Lib Dem too, and Bob Ainsworth voted Green, so I assume lots more expulsions are coming, especially if the proliferation of the #ExpelMeToo tag is anything to go by.

 

Meanwhile it's also emerged that Tony Benn voted for Bob Crow's "No 2 EU, Yes to Democracy" candidate in 2009, so there's someone else we can add to the list of traitors. Odd that Benn wasn't expelled though...

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14 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Only after it. You know, like Campbell.

 

Charles Clarke has admitted voting Lib Dem too, and Bob Ainsworth voted Green, so I assume lots more expulsions are coming, especially if the proliferation of the #ExpelMeToo tag is anything to go by.

 

Meanwhile it's also emerged that Tony Benn voted for Bob Crow's "No 2 EU, Yes to Democracy" candidate in 2009, so there's someone else we can add to the list of traitors. Odd that Benn wasn't expelled though...

Your last post didn’t give the impression it was after. I’d say congratulating someone is very different to voting for someone/another party.

 

If Campbell has said it after, then he shouldn’t be expelled. 

 

If he has said it before as some reports are suggesting; then he should be expelled.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Only after it. You know, like Campbell.

 

Charles Clarke has admitted voting Lib Dem too, and Bob Ainsworth voted Green, so I assume lots more expulsions are coming, especially if the proliferation of the #ExpelMeToo tag is anything to go by.

 

Meanwhile it's also emerged that Tony Benn voted for Bob Crow's "No 2 EU, Yes to Democracy" candidate in 2009, so there's someone else we can add to the list of traitors. Odd that Benn wasn't expelled though...

 

Surely can see the difference between saying you voted for a different party and congratulating someone outside of your party winning in an election. 

 

Doesn't every single losing candidate ‘congratulate’ the winner after the returning officer announces the result? 

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14 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

 

Surely can see the difference between saying you voted for a different party and congratulating someone outside of your party winning in an election. 

 

Doesn't every single losing candidate ‘congratulate’ the winner after the returning officer announces the result? 

 

You don't often see MPs congratulating people for beating their colleagues though, and hailing it as a powerful message.

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9 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

 

So you can see the difference. 

 

I think the difference is academic. Plus the likes of Tony Benn actually admitted to voting for another party and wasn't expelled. What's the difference there?

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The whole why was Campbell dealt with so quickly when Antisemitism allegations take longer argument is a deceitful one too. There appears to be very few points of contention in Campbell's case, whereas antisemitism allegations will likely contain a lot more evidence to scrutinise such as past conduct, examination of previous social media history to see if it was a clumsy one off incident or formed part of a pattern of antisemitic conduct. 

 

Plus, there probably wasn't a shit stirrer clogging up the system by chucking in a thousand odd other baseless "supporting another" claims, or claims that didn't even involve Labour Party members, at the same time as Campbell's complaint was being considered. 

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Congratulating an opponent?

Seems small change compared to becoming very junior partner in coalition with them. Though I suppose if you agree with their policies--austerity, tuition fees, etc--there's no real abandonment of principle.

 

Though that in turn raises the question as to why have a separate  party in the first place.

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9 hours ago, Sugar Ape said:

 

There’s enough ambiguity there for him to challenge it if he wants to imo. 

He doesn't want to.  What he wants to do is cause as much trouble as possible for the Labour Party - at a time when the Tories are at their weakest - in order to stop any Socialists gaining power.

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8 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

You don't often see MPs congratulating people for beating their colleagues though, and hailing it as a powerful message.

Yes you do. All the time. In this occasion it was also done by the opposition Prime Minister in the House if Commons at the dispatch box. Congratulating somebody and voting against your party is wholly different and in no way academic. 

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9 hours ago, torahboy said:

Daily Mail? Are you a cunt? 

Sorry, don't know why I asked that question. Just get rhetorical now and then.

The Daily Heil doorstepping him outside his house, despite him being absolutely clear from Day One that - out of respect for his neighbours  - he won't answer any questions there.

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