Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[moof]

Just a reminder that it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people in this country 

[Red Phoenix]

10 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

Interesting that Luciana Berger's 79.5% vote share is not down to personal popularity, but is due to her apparently riding on the coattails of Labour, while Diane Abbott's 75.1% vote share is because her constituents like her. Quite remarkable, in fact.

 

Disgraceful post. Sad!

 

Our messiah Jeremy is going to become pm. Then he's gonna smooth talk other countries into agreeing that a New World Order government be set up, then he's gonna be our world leader.

 

Then he's gonna resign, place Abbott there instead, and your post, along with all other criticism of Abbott on the intertubes, will be removed.

[moof]

Diane Abbott has been MP for her constituency since the 80s, Berger was parachuted into one of the safest labour seats in the country. 

 

 

[SasaS]

Isn't Abbott's constituency also a historically safe Labour seat?

[Sugar Ape]

1 minute ago, SasaS said:

Isn't Abbott's constituency also a historically safe Labour seat?

 

Yes. It’s returned a Labour MP at every election since its creation in 1950 and the narrowest majority was 18.3%. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Yeah, but...

[moof]

22 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Isn't Abbott's constituency also a historically safe Labour seat?

Do you honestly think people would vote for the same MP for 30 years if they thought she was a shit cunt?

[moof]

17 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Yeah, but...

Don’t be a dickhead

[Numero Veinticinco]

42 minutes ago, moof said:

Just a reminder that it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people in this country 

Disagree. What’s your line of thinking here, mate?

[Strontium]

36 minutes ago, moof said:

Just a reminder that it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people in this country 

 

I can't even work out what's satire and what isn't any more.

[Numero Veinticinco]

The thing about the ‘yeah, but her constituents like her’ line is that not only am I not one of her constituents, but I don’t have to agree with her constituents. Just like I don’t agree with May’s constituents, or Boris’s, or Mogg, or anybody else. I might be wrong, or they might, but them liking her or not doesn’t really prove much. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Are we talking about Abbott or Berger here?

[Sugar Ape]

So, to sum up:

 

You can’t be racist against a white person in this country. 

 

You're a good egg if your constituents vote you in as an MP, unless you’re a Tory or an MP who doesn’t like Corbyn. In that case the constituents are cunts.

 

People vote personally for MPs like Abbott who are great, but cunts like Chuka and Berger are only voted for because they run on the Labour ticket.

 

People wouldn’t vote for someone like Abbott for nearly 30 years unless she was great, but they would vote for someone like Mike Gapes for almost 20 years. Even though Gapes is a cunt obviously.

[SasaS]

18 minutes ago, moof said:

Do you honestly think people would vote for the same MP for 30 years if they thought she was a shit cunt?

 

9 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

The thing about the ‘yeah, but her constituents like her’ line is that not only am I not one of her constituents, but I don’t have to agree with her constituents. Just like I don’t agree with May’s constituents, or Boris’s, or Mogg, or anybody else. I might be wrong, or they might, but them liking her or not doesn’t really prove much. 

 

[Sugar Ape]

Oh, and I forgot to add that Babs is a dickhead. But we all agreed on that anyway.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I can't disagree.

[moof]

4 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

So, to sum up:

 

You can’t be racist against a white person in this country. 

Yep

4 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

 

You're a good egg if your constituents vote you in as an MP, unless you’re a Tory or an MP who doesn’t like Corbyn. In that case the constituents are cunts.

Nope, nobody made a value judgement on whether that makes an MP a “good egg”

4 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

 

People vote personally for MPs like Abbott who are great, but cunts like Chuka and Berger are only voted for because they run on the Labour ticket.

 

Shrug, I’d like to see that theory tested, they should stand in a by-election

4 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

People wouldn’t vote for someone like Abbott for nearly 30 years unless she was great, but they would vote for someone like Mike Gapes for almost 20 years. Even though Gapes is a cunt obviously.

Nope, nobody said that. Maybe his constituents think he’s doing a good job. 

 

 

What a pile of wank you’ve just posted

[moof]

7 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

 

Well done

[moof]

21 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

Disagree. What’s your line of thinking here, mate?

Essentially that racism requires some historical context. There’s no history of whites being systemically oppressed in this country. White people can’t experience actual, structural racism - so any comments based on their skin colour is ultimately benign. 

[Sugar Ape]

It’s boss this. It’s like Face Off. Moof has swapped faces with 2015 Hades.

[Strontium]

I joke about it, but the "you can't be racist against white people" notion is a bit sinister. In fact, it goes some way to explaining Labour's antisemitism problem. Because Jews are "white" in their book - witness Andrew Murray's assertion that Hitler is only hated so much because his victims were white - and if you can't be racist against white people, you can't be racist against Jews.

 

I just hope I live long enough to see rabid identity politics consigned to the dustbin of history.

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

It’s boss this. It’s like Face Off. Moof has swapped faces with 2015 Hades.

I prefer ‘The Man with Half a Brain’. 

 

Its a prequel 

[SasaS]

4 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

I joke about it, but the "you can't be racist against white people" notion is a bit sinister. In fact, it goes some way to explaining Labour's antisemitism problem. Because Jews are "white" in their book - witness Andrew Murray's assertion that Hitler is only hated so much because his victims were white - and if you can't be racist against white people, you can't be racist against Jews.

 

I just hope I live long enough to see rabid identity politics consigned to the dustbin of history.

 

Did no one tell him about Roma?

[Anny Road]

Is racism defined only by having a different skin colour? 

I’m sure far right people don’t particularly hate the colours black or brown. Sure they drink coffee.

Was the tribal slaughtering Rwanda classed as racist violence or because they were both black tribal? I don’t know the answer.

 

[moof]

7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

I joke about it, but the "you can't be racist against white people" notion is a bit sinister. In fact, it goes some way to explaining Labour's antisemitism problem. Because Jews are "white" in their book - witness Andrew Murray's assertion that Hitler is only hated so much because his victims were white - and if you can't be racist against white people, you can't be racist against Jews.

 

I just hope I live long enough to see rabid identity politics consigned to the dustbin of history.

What a dirty fucking insinuation