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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?


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  1. 1. Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?



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In all seriousness what has Corbyn delivered in the last 3 years? He can't even get his own party to fall in line, let alone hold the others accountable. The party has been reduced to tabling no confidence motions - that they know they can't win - to try and appear like they're doing something.

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12 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Hasn't this Government suffered a record number of defeats in the Commons or something?  They're certainly not getting any sort of easy ride.

I like Corbyn I really do but recently I'm seeing him more as the class geek who has managed to get the fittest girl in the year back to his bed and she is lay there naked begging to be touched and he is just sat talking too her about Fortnite and various species of moths. 

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9 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

I like Corbyn I really do but recently I'm seeing him more as the class geek who has managed to get the fittest girl in the year back to his bed and she is lay there naked begging to be touched and he is just sat talking too her about Fortnite and various species of moths. 

He’s basically all we’ve got though so you need to stick with him.  He’s surrounded by right wing lizards on all sides of the house.  When and if he goes before they can permanently take the control of the Labour Party away from the elite and put it in the hands of the members then you can say goodbye to a fairer taxation system, renationalising the railways, fixing the housing crisis, higher education funding etc etc.

 

All you’re going to get is the same gesture politics you got from the liberal rightwing politicians we’ve been inundated with for the past 2 decades.  As the Labour Party continues to become a right wing party under these gobshites don’t expect the tories to stop moving further right themselves.

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4 hours ago, The Guest said:

He’s basically all we’ve got though so you need to stick with him.  He’s surrounded by right wing lizards on all sides of the house.  When and if he goes before they can permanently take the control of the Labour Party away from the elite and put it in the hands of the members then you can say goodbye to a fairer taxation system, renationalising the railways, fixing the housing crisis, higher education funding etc etc.

 

All you’re going to get is the same gesture politics you got from the liberal rightwing politicians we’ve been inundated with for the past 2 decades.  As the Labour Party continues to become a right wing party under these gobshites don’t expect the tories to stop moving further right themselves.

He’s basically all we have got is the sad reality. 

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Heard from a member of my branch who’s in some private Twitterati groups that there’s some big shit going down in the Wavertree CLP and it’s gonna come to light in the next few days. 

 

Also someone’s dug up a clip of the Wavertree chair saying some really, really shocking anti-Semitic stuff. He said that the Rothschild family have financial affairs intertwined with politics. An outrageous smear. Then he went on to say that the US, the UK and ISRAEL should stop bombing other countries.

 

The fucking balls on this racist cunt. 

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13 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

I like Corbyn I really do but recently I'm seeing him more as the class geek who has managed to get the fittest girl in the year back to his bed and she is lay there naked begging to be touched and he is just sat talking too her about Fortnite and various species of moths. 

 

Well, he did bed Diane Abbot, the foxy minx.

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17 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Heard from a member of my branch who’s in some private Twitterati groups that there’s some big shit going down in the Wavertree CLP and it’s gonna come to light in the next few days. 

 

Also someone’s dug up a clip of the Wavertree chair saying some really, really shocking anti-Semitic stuff. He said that the Rothschild family have financial affairs intertwined with politics. An outrageous smear. Then he went on to say that the US, the UK and ISRAEL should stop bombing other countries.

 

The fucking balls on this racist cunt. 

The Chair is Jewish you antisemite. 

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5 hours ago, The Guest said:

He’s basically all we’ve got though so you need to stick with him.  He’s surrounded by right wing lizards on all sides of the house.  When and if he goes before they can permanently take the control of the Labour Party away from the elite and put it in the hands of the members then you can say goodbye to a fairer taxation system, renationalising the railways, fixing the housing crisis, higher education funding etc etc.

 

All you’re going to get is the same gesture politics you got from the liberal rightwing politicians we’ve been inundated with for the past 2 decades.  As the Labour Party continues to become a right wing party under these gobshites don’t expect the tories to stop moving further right themselves.

 

Putting the Labour party in the hands of the members was the dumbest thing the Labour party ever did. The members - through their own hubris and delusions about what the party should represent - have cast the party into permanent obscurity. The culling of moderate voices to make way for Corbyn sycophants will not only lead the party further into the abyss. 

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12 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

Putting the Labour party in the hands of the members was the dumbest thing the Labour party ever did. The members - through their own hubris and delusions about what the party should represent - have cast the party into permanent obscurity. The culling of moderate voices to make way for Corbyn sycophants will not only lead the party further into the abyss. 

 

If Labour had remained a corporate and undemocratic circlejerk it would've been better off dead anyway.

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26 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

Putting the Labour party in the hands of the members was the dumbest thing the Labour party ever did. The members - through their own hubris and delusions about what the party should represent - have cast the party into permanent obscurity. The culling of moderate voices to make way for Corbyn sycophants will not only lead the party further into the abyss. 

Except, that's not happening. 

 

Berger had her no confidence vote withdrawn. Hodge is still in her seat. As are Streeting, Mann, Ellman, Gapes, Chris Leslie, Owen Smith, Jess Phillips, Hillary Benn. 

 

Plus, ahead in some polls and tied/close in others hardly equals obscurity. 

 

Nothing but bluster. 

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Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

Except, that's not happening. 

 

Berger had her no confidence vote withdrawn. Hodge is still in her seat. As are Streeting, Mann, Ellman, Gapes, Chris Leslie, Owen Smith, Jess Phillips, Hillary Benn. 

 

Plus, ahead in some polls and tied/close in others hardly equals obscurity. 

 

Nothing but bluster. 

I still have my doubts whether Corbyn could be a leader longterm, but what's happened to Labour has been excellent in terms of cleaning house. 

 

Look at some of the turds who've left, found themselves on the outside looking in or are now basically in permanent exile. 

 

Umuna, Tristram Hunt, David Miliband, like this lot could give a shit if someone earning less than a hundred grand a year lives or dies. 

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16 hours ago, Boss said:

In all seriousness what has Corbyn delivered in the last 3 years?

 

Let’s look at what has happened since Corbyn was elected leader. After the 2015 general election Labour needed an 8.75% swing to get a majority of one. Following the 2017 election they need a much smaller swing of around 3.6%. See the article below that touches on how some tory seats have had their majorities slashed. Labour could actually take Ian Duncan Smith and Boris Johnson seats next time round. They also had their biggest increase in vote share since 1945. I think it was also the first time since 1997 they actually gained seats. Oh and the Conservatives actually lost their overall majority resulting in the pact with the DUP. 

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/06/why-labour-majority-next-election-has-become-far-easier

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2015/05/labours-path-back-power-tougher-you-think

 

Since 2015 Labour have the largest membership in Europe and the much maligned Momentum has tried to be replicated by the Conservatives and Lib Dems. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that. Labour have deep problems but they go way beyond Corbyn but team Corbyn have definitely put Labour in a better place. 

 

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52 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Except, that's not happening. 

 

Berger had her no confidence vote withdrawn. Hodge is still in her seat. As are Streeting, Mann, Ellman, Gapes, Chris Leslie, Owen Smith, Jess Phillips, Hillary Benn. 

 

Plus, ahead in some polls and tied/close in others hardly equals obscurity. 

 

Nothing but bluster. 

I think the only MP to be barred from standing as an MP since Corbyn became leader was Dancuzk who abused his position of power with a 17 year old. He wasn't even deselected he was banned by the NEC. 

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1 hour ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Except, that's not happening. 

 

Berger had her no confidence vote withdrawn. Hodge is still in her seat. As are Streeting, Mann, Ellman, Gapes, Chris Leslie, Owen Smith, Jess Phillips, Hillary Benn. 

 

Plus, ahead in some polls and tied/close in others hardly equals obscurity. 

 

Nothing but bluster. 

 

It's blatantly obvious to anyone with a clue that the CLP and Momentum are trying to push out the moderate voices in the party to make way for far left socialist MP's. The no confidence vote proves it. They were trying to pull a fast one, and it caused such a stink they had to climb down. 

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2 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

It's blatantly obvious to anyone with a clue that the CLP and Momentum are trying to push out the moderate voices in the party to make way for far left socialist MP's. The no confidence vote proves it. They were trying to pull a fast one, and it caused such a stink they had to climb down. 

Can you back up this claim with examples, other than Berger and a couple of others? Or deal with the absence of any real attempt to oust Hodge, Ellman, John Mann, Owen Smith etc. 

 

I'll wait... 

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