Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Jairzinho]

Realistic in what sense?

 

 

[SasaS]

3 hours ago, cloggypop said:

It's not just the country. The zeitgeist across Europe is that "centrist" left wing parties are dying out, having severely disappointed their supporters, and genuinely left wing policies are on the rise. 

 

Populist policies are on the rise.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

24 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Realistic in what sense?

 

 

Just in my opinion. 

 

Obviously it'll come down to the members etc. 

[cloggypop]

19 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

Populist policies are on the rise.

As well, not really applicable to Socialist parties though. The decline in centralism is 

[magicrat]

29 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Just in my opinion. 

 

Obviously it'll come down to the members etc. 

I like Starmer but can't see the members voting him in. He is a calm voice amid a rabble of chattering self interested lunatics

[SasaS]

14 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

As well, not really applicable to Socialist parties though. The decline in centralism is 

 

Not sure that is true. I think we will see more and more of movements and politicians which would not be so easy to define ideologically, they will be taking from what we now see as left and right and increasingly appeal to people's emotions. 

[Captain Turdseye]

If Corbyn goes I’ll probably cancel my membership. I’ll still vote Labour but only a leader that’s genuinely on the left would see me giving them any time or money. I just don’t think that person is out there.

 

I could see hundreds of thousands doing the same if it’s only centrists that are in the running to replace him. 

[Section_31]

Ed Miliband's podcast is boss. All the ex Labour leaders since Blair have seemed pretty sound when they've left the job. Brown is clearly a caring guy too and a deep thinker. 

[Section_31]

Ed Miliband's podcast is boss. All the ex Labour leaders since Blair have seemed pretty sound when they've left the job. Brown is clearly a caring guy too and a deep thinker. 

[ZonkoVille77]

It's a pity they can't be sound when in the job.

[Section_31]

12 hours ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

It's a pity they can't be sound when in the job.

I think they probably are but they get eviscerated by the media. 

 

Every Labour leader since Blair has been the subject of personal attacks, from phone stings by The S*n, to being branded Red Ed and your father being labelled a traitor. 

 

It's essentially an ongoing campaign of regime change. Just the way the media and right wing parties vilify national leaders they can't do business with and laud the ones they can, so too with Labour leaders.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Cheesy Liz Truss is going to steal the youth vote from Corbyn.

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/101362/liz-truss-makes-pitch-win-over-young-voters?fbclid=IwAR3fgO2N36dPS999uYXr3zNTXxT1rz67x6Jgyar-lsnf4j8ATA4ARSxMwZA

 

 

[Section_31]

Rachel Riley has had to get extra security on Countdown because of "TWITTER THREATS FROM CORBYN"S VILE TROLL STORMTROOPER ARMY OF BASTARDS."

 

Otherwise know as Jeff82, a taxi driver with no girlfriend. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

7 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Rachel Riley has had to get extra security on Countdown because of "TWITTER THREATS FROM CORBYN"S VILE TROLL STORMTROOPER ARMY OF BASTARDS."

 

Otherwise know as Jeff82, a taxi driver with no girlfriend. 

She needs to get a grip. The daft consonant, consonant, vowel, consonant. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

8 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Rachel Riley has had to get extra security on Countdown because of "TWITTER THREATS FROM CORBYN"S VILE TROLL STORMTROOPER ARMY OF BASTARDS."

 

Otherwise know as Jeff82, a taxi driver with no girlfriend. 

Fucking Hell, if she "needs" security because some people called her a daft cow for chatting shit about anti-Semitism, then Dianne Abbott should never go anywhere without a thousand Praetorian guards.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Good man. Riley will be fuming. 

[Mook]

3 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Good man. Riley will be fuming. 

That's him signing the visitors book 'Adolf Hitler'.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

13 minutes ago, Mook said:

That's him signing the visitors book 'Adolf Hitler'.

 

He's actually being criticised for paying respects to the Jewish people "and others" who were killed by the Nazis. People are claiming about the inclusion of "others." It's really desperate when people are using an act of remembrance to the millions of non-Jewish victims of Nazi Germany to try and imply antisemitism. Really classless. 

[TheHowieLama]

Classless warfare

[Numero Veinticinco]

Teaching people to deny the Holocaust? What a monster. 

[Jairzinho]

He does look pretty fucked off there. Like he'd been promised this was the "Holocaust Denial Educational Trust".

[Section_31]

Ironically I just got some Twitter abuse for suggesting Riley's  comments about not looking Jewish was itself antisimetic. Who do I blame for that then? Ben Kingsley? Alan Sugar's troll army? Or those dudes who play chess in central park? When do I get my guards too?

[magicrat]

4 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

He does look pretty fucked off there. Like he'd been promised this was the "Holocaust Denial Educational Trust".

He looks pretty fucked off generally . Looking his age these days  

[Section_31]

30 minutes ago, magicrat said:

He looks pretty fucked off generally . Looking his age these days  

Wouldn't you be though? You spend your days calling for things like justice for Grenfell or for a living wage but become own of the most derided men in Britain because you had the temerity to wear a raincoat in the rain.

 

I bet he dreams of the day he can go back to taking pictures of manhole covers and growing rhubarb. Can't say as I blame him.

[magicrat]

5 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Wouldn't you be though? You spend your days calling for things like justice for Grenfell or for a living wage but become own of the most derided men in Britain because you had the temerity to wear a raincoat in the rain.

 

I bet he dreams of the day he can go back to taking pictures of manhole covers and growing rhubarb. Can't say as I blame him.

Unfortunately its all drowned out by Brexit which doesn't interest him but just happens to be the defining moment of post war politics in the country.