Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Numero Veinticinco]

Voting patterns don’t say they’re against Brexit, they say they’re against the government suggestions on Brexit. Next. 

[Barrington Womble]

8 hours ago, polymerpunkah said:

If there aren't currently negotiating some way to get Parliament onside, then the Conservatives are even more incompetent than they look.

 

There's nothing to negotiate. There is no alternative to the backstop and as much as Labour would like to think there is parliamentary opposition to the whole deal, if May/EU could fix the backstop they'd have enough votes to get it through. What the conservatives are doing now is negotiating with each other and trying to convince enough of their numbers the horrors of no deal are worse than the "no sovereignty" side of the backstop. Except nobody truly believes no deal is an option. This is the sickening thing of all the money they're spending on ships etc at the moment. It will never, ever be used, we are just pissing the cash away that could be used on other things for the benefit of a tory party squabble. 

[Rico1304]

7 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

The important fact you keep deliberately ignoring is the main reaon he hasn't come out against Brexit is because it wouldn't make ANY difference.

It wouldn’t make any difference to the c60% of the country and 70% of his party?  

 

 

[Section_31]

12 minutes ago, rico1304 said:

It wouldn’t make any difference to the c60% of the country and 70% of his party?  

 

 

No, what difference would it make to what you say you want - no Brexit.

 

I've asked you more than once to say how Corbyn getting involved would change things and you just keep repeating the same digs. You're unloading on him because you can't bring yourself to do it against your own party who both instigated and are perpetuating it. 

 

Seriously, fill in the gaps below and enlighten everyone. 

 

(1) Corbyn tells Andrew Marr Brexit is a bad idea.

 

(2) 

 

(3)

 

(4) plug is pulled on Brexit.

[Rico1304]

They aren’t ‘my party’ ive voted for them because it suited me.  I’ve said this about ten thousand times (give or take a thousand).  If there was a party that suited me more I’d vote for them, if that was Labour you’d think I was one of the cool kids despite my motivation being exactly the same.  

 

Remaining becomes seen as a serious and viable option

 

mays deal is voted down, there’s an election (that’s what you’re hoping for too isn’t it?) 

 

Lib Dem voters may migrate, especially if JC and Lib Dem leadership are

able to do a deal

 

JC gets the DUP onside (personally I’d never stop laughing at that)

 

Millions and millions of voters who were seduced by JC last time (paraphrasing you) vote for the only credible Remain party

 

He’s doing fuck all at the moment, I’d rather go down swinging.  

 

If we get an election and JC loses what a brilliant tactician he’ll be. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Rico doesn't half chat some utter bubbles.

[Strontium]

Labour must be able to stop the Tories, because they have 260-odd MPs, and I read on here that you can stop everything the Tories do with 57 MPs.

[Pureblood]

Just now, Strontium Dog said:

Labour must be able to stop the Tories, because they have 260-odd MPs, and I read on here that you can stop everything the Tories do with 57 MPs.

Be quiet, you silly twat. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Strontium Dog said:

Labour must be able to stop the Tories, because they have 260-odd MPs, and I read on here that you can stop everything the Tories do with 57 MPs.

I think they might be able to do something if they were in government and the other party were dependant on them to get anything through. You know, like the Lib Dems were. 

[Strontium]

That's the worst thing about the far left, they're utterly humourless.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Far left. Huh. 

[cloggypop]

7 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Be quiet, you silly twat. 

A quality return in full

[Jairzinho]

 

Centrist comedians unite.

[aRdja]

10 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

That's the worst thing about the far left, they're utterly humourless.

Whereas Tommy Robinson, Netanyahu and Trump are full of lols?

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, rico1304 said:

They aren’t ‘my party’ ive voted for them because it suited me.  I’ve said this about ten thousand times (give or take a thousand).  If there was a party that suited me more I’d vote for them, if that was Labour you’d think I was one of the cool kids despite my motivation being exactly the same.  

 

Remaining becomes seen as a serious and viable option

 

mays deal is voted down, there’s an election (that’s what you’re hoping for too isn’t it?) 

 

Lib Dem voters may migrate, especially if JC and Lib Dem leadership are

able to do a deal

 

JC gets the DUP onside (personally I’d never stop laughing at that)

 

Millions and millions of voters who were seduced by JC last time (paraphrasing you) vote for the only credible Remain party

 

He’s doing fuck all at the moment, I’d rather go down swinging.  

 

If we get an election and JC loses what a brilliant tactician he’ll be. 

That's some amazing bollocks that son. 

[Rico1304]

 

jobs first brexit? Renegotiate the deal? 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Yes, FFS. That’s what the country fucking voted for, that’s what the parties are obliged to try to get through parliament. If they can’t, as May can’t, then you have to ask again. Continually hitting at him for that policy is ridiculous. It’s old news. 

[Strontium]

Nobody's "obliged" to get Brexit through parliament at all. The vote was wholly illegitimate, proven lies bankrolled by dubious foreign money. People are going to go to jail for it. Not that the leader of her majesty's opposition has had a word to say about Russian interference in the referendum, which itself should raise all kind of red flags, no matter what your politics is.

[Numero Veinticinco]

4 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

Nobody's "obliged" to get Brexit through parliament at all. 

Yes, yes. But, you know, they really are. I agree it wasn’t legitimate. It fucking sucked as I was saying at the time. But also, there was a referendum and there was a result. If the only major opposing party is like ‘nah, fuck it’ they’ll never been in power to do anything. I can only see this ending in one of two ways. First, a crazy No Deal. Second, a referendum that will be stay or go without a deal. Hopefully sooner rather than later and hopefully some cunt can butter Murdoch up to sell, sell, sell it. 

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog said:

Nobody's "obliged" to get Brexit through parliament at all. The vote was wholly illegitimate, proven lies bankrolled by dubious foreign money. People are going to go to jail for it. Not that the leader of her majesty's opposition has had a word to say about Russian interference in the referendum, which itself should raise all kind of red flags, no matter what your politics is.

Bloody facts, didn’t someone say that earlier? 

[polymerpunkah]

Then why no calls for May and the Conservatives to refuse Brexit on the same grounds?

 

What is different for them? 
 

[Strontium]

10 minutes ago, rico1304 said:

Bloody facts, didn’t someone say that earlier? 

 

That's the biggest issue I have with Brexit, Tories and Labour alike treating it like it's a legitimate thing when it's the dodgiest result since hanging chads in Florida. And apart from the odd MP in those parties (notably Ben Bradshaw) nobody is pointing at the overwhelming Russian interference and saying: "Hang on a minute, hadn't we better get to the bottom of this before we commit our country to a disastrous path, onto which it's been set by a foreign power that wants to see us burn?"

 

I feel like I'm living in Bizarro World.

[polymerpunkah]

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Tories and Labour alike

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

That's the biggest issue I have with Brexit, Tories and Labour alike treating it like it's a legitimate thing when it's the dodgiest result since hanging chads in Florida. And apart from the odd MP in those parties (notably Ben Bradshaw) nobody is pointing at the overwhelming Russian interference and saying: "Hang on a minute, hadn't we better get to the bottom of this before we commit our country to a disastrous path, onto which it's been set by a foreign power that wants to see us burn?"

 

I feel like I'm living in Bizarro World.

Genuine question, how many times have the LDs brought up Russian Interference into Brexit as questions to the PM in parliament? 

[Rico1304]

8 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

That's the biggest issue I have with Brexit, Tories and Labour alike treating it like it's a legitimate thing when it's the dodgiest result since hanging chads in Florida. And apart from the odd MP in those parties (notably Ben Bradshaw) nobody is pointing at the overwhelming Russian interference and saying: "Hang on a minute, hadn't we better get to the bottom of this before we commit our country to a disastrous path, onto which it's been set by a foreign power that wants to see us burn?"

 

I feel like I'm living in Bizarro World.

Who else but that cunt Moof would neg this? The electorate had been proved to be misled by a foreign power but its the Russians so can’t accept it. If only he was a real person rather than a melange.  

 

If itd been the US he’d be all over it.  Like Corbyn would have as the are the great enemy.