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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?


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Corbyn is a millionaire, he’d be even richer if he didn’t have to pay off a couple of wives. Despite having a private education all his money has come from being an MP (plus jobs because he’s an MP)

 

Hodge made her money, her husband made his and then she became an MP.

 

Mmm

I'm sure there's supposed to be some sort of a point in here.

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A little exercise in double standards.

 

https://excelpope.wordpress.com/2018/08/17/questions/

 

Seriously?

 

It's piss-weak.  No intelligent, honest person could read that and believe that there are comparisons between Farage's obvious and overt racism and the pure fiction of Corbyn's supposed "anti-Semitism".

 

You can't post shite like that and then spit your dummy when people here don't take you seriously.

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Yes, to point where Hodge is described as a millionaire, clearly with negative connotations.

I think it was the hypocrisy that she criticised people who benefited from tax avoidance schemes and then appeared to benefit from one herself, rather than the fact she was rich.

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Seriously?

 

It's piss-weak.  No intelligent, honest person could read that and believe that there are comparisons between Farage's obvious and overt racism and the pure fiction of Corbyn's supposed "anti-Semitism".

 

You can't post shite like that and then spit your dummy when people here don't take you seriously.

 

All the guy is doing is using the precise same arguments used to defend Corbyn to fashion a similar defence for Farage. Your response rather proves the point of that article spectacularly, I think.

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ISLINGTON North MP Jeremy Corbyn was the lowest expenses claimer in the country – after putting in for just £8.70 for an ink cartridge. ( 2010 )

 

If Corbyn is a millionaire Rico , it is because he has saved from his earnings over the years which I thought a Tory like you would applaud.

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Yes, to point where Hodge is described as a millionaire, clearly with negative connotations.

Ah, right...

 

You're taking issue with Private Eye 23 years ago.  OK.

 

Personally, I've always thought what you do matters more than your background; whether you're born in a slum or a palace, it's whether you're a cunt that's more important.

 

Still, I'll have a look at your post on your terms.

 

Corbyn is a millionaire,

Is he?  Anything I've seen about estimating his net worth is very spurious, unchecked, fag-packet stuff.  It may be that he has saved the bulk of his salary over the years - in which case he could have in excess of a million or two - or he may have done something else with it.  The point is, neither you or I know well enough to baldly state that he's a millionaire.

 

 

he’d be even richer if he didn’t have to pay off a couple of wives.

"Pay off"?  Really?  He has two ex-wives and there was nothing sleazy or scandalous about the way either marriage ended; sometimes marriages just end.I'd be surprised if either of them had ever squeezed a load of alimony out of him.  I'm going to stick my neck out and guess that you're just making shit up with your talk of "having to pay off a couple of wives".

 

 

Despite having a private education all his money has come from being an MP (plus jobs because he’s an MP)

Is the sole purpose of private education to go out and make more money for yourself in the private sector?  Is it really so unacceptable that a privately educated person should set about doing stuff that's useful to other people, like Voluntary Service Overseas, or working as a trade union organiser or a local councillor?

 

You also appear to be sneering at the fact that he gets paid as an MP; as if that's somehow not a legitimate way for a person to earn a living.  It seems a bit weird, given how you and I have argued in the past over your opinion that we need to significantly increase MPs' salaries.

 

Hodge made her money,

She is a major shareholder in the business - described as "one of the world's largest privately held steel companies" - started by her parents and later run by her brother.  She also worked in the private sector, in those oh-so-valuable fields of market research, PR and "consulting" before she became an Islington Councillor.  (And the less said about her time there, the better.)

 

her husband made his

Are we talking about her first husband?  I wonder if he had to "pay her off" when they got divorced.

Her second husband, Henry Hodge, "made his" as a lawyer.  (Insert Alan Partridge *shrug* gif.)

 

and then she became an MP

She became an MP along what was to become the familiar New Labour route; with a background in PR and "consulting" and with having a close personal relationship with the Blairs (at that time, Tony was still just a rising star), she was slotted into a safe seat in a by-election. 

 

Mmm 

Indeed.

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All the guy is doing is using the precise same arguments used to defend Corbyn to fashion a similar defence for Farage.

No he isn't.

 

Your response rather proves the point of that article spectacularly,

No it doesn't

 

I think.

There is no evidence of this.

It really is a piece of half-arsed, micron-thin bullshit.  An 8 year-old child could destroy it by opening a few extra tabs on the lap-top and checking some facts.

 

I'd do it myself, but frankly it's beneath me.

 

Even a throwaway post from Rico contains more substance to engage with than than silent fart you linked to.

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I’m talking about the article where JC ‘bettered’her. He was likely a millionaire too.

Whether Corbyn was a millionaire then or not, referring to Hodge like that is still an instance of the logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well".

 

Maybe also a bit of dog whistle thrown in too.

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On Saturday I was watching a game of amateur football in a local park.

 

The coach of the team winning 3-1 shouted for his midfield to drop.

 

A lad who had been substituted for the team who were losing suddenly started giving the winning coach grief, saying he knew nothing about football.  The coach looked at him perplexed and the subbed player started going on about him not having a clue.

 

The coach started to engage in a conversation, then realised that despite all the evidence in front of them - the coach's team winning 3-1 away, the lad criticising him being subbed off after 50 minutes - there was just nothing that he could actually say.

 

And then, there's this thread.

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No comment.

Oh, come on! That’s a bit of a cop-out. You said you would always back up what you say. Why are both you and Rico so reluctant to actually say things that you can’t easily walk back from?

 

As for the whole millionaire thing, I’ve no idea why Rico is making things up. He seems to have lost his shit her the last few weeks. A generally funny, intelligent guy now turned into a one line bumping machine and then ignoring the responding posters. He’s had a bit of a meltdown.

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That’s woeful. Jeremy has a lot to answer for here.

Why? Why does Jeremy Corbyn have to answer for some Facebook project with a wordpress site that some ‘70 year old girlie’ seems to have knocked up on her computer? Why does Jeremy Corbyn have to answer for somebody calling a group of people - some Jewish, some not - the enemy within? What does he even have to do with it at all?

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Why? Why does Jeremy Corbyn have to answer for some Facebook project with a wordpress site that some ‘70 year old girlie’ seems to have knocked up on her computer? Why does Jeremy Corbyn have to answer for somebody calling a group of people - some Jewish, some not - the enemy within?

I had my tongue firmly in cheek Numero.
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Ah, right...

 

You're taking issue with Private Eye 23 years ago. OK.

 

Personally, I've always thought what you do matters more than your background; whether you're born in a slum or a palace, it's whether you're a cunt that's more important.

 

Still, I'll have a look at your post on your terms.

 

Corbyn is a millionaire,

Is he? Anything I've seen about estimating his net worth is very spurious, unchecked, fag-packet stuff. It may be that he has saved the bulk of his salary over the years - in which case he could have in excess of a million or two - or he may have done something else with it. The point is, neither you or I know well enough to baldly state that he's a millionaire.

 

 

he’d be even richer if he didn’t have to pay off a couple of wives.

"Pay off"? Really? He has two ex-wives and there was nothing sleazy or scandalous about the way either marriage ended; sometimes marriages just end.I'd be surprised if either of them had ever squeezed a load of alimony out of him. I'm going to stick my neck out and guess that you're just making shit up with your talk of "having to pay off a couple of wives".

 

Despite having a private education all his money has come from being an MP (plus jobs because he’s an MP)

Is the sole purpose of private education to go out and make more money for yourself in the private sector? Is it really so unacceptable that a privately educated person should set about doing stuff that's useful to other people, like Voluntary Service Overseas, or working as a trade union organiser or a local councillor?

 

You also appear to be sneering at the fact that he gets paid as an MP; as if that's somehow not a legitimate way for a person to earn a living. It seems a bit weird, given how you and I have argued in the past over your opinion that we need to significantly increase MPs' salaries.

 

Hodge made her money,

She is a major shareholder in the business - described as "one of the world's largest privately held steel companies" - started by her parents and later run by her brother. She also worked in the private sector, in those oh-so-valuable fields of market research, PR and "consulting" before she became an Islington Councillor. (And the less said about her time there, the better.)

 

her husband made his

Are we talking about her first husband? I wonder if he had to "pay her off" when they got divorced.

Her second husband, Henry Hodge, "made his" as a lawyer. (Insert Alan Partridge *shrug* gif.)

 

and then she became an MP.

She became an MP along what was to become the familiar New Labour route; with a background in PR and "consulting" and with having a close personal relationship with the Blairs (at that time, Tony was still just a rising star), she was slotted into a safe seat in a by-election.

 

Mmm

Indeed.

You posted that 25 yr old article on this page. Remember?

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I’m talking about the article where JC ‘bettered’her. He was likely a millionaire too.

If it was a debate about clause 4 then raising the fact that Hodge was a millionaire seems reasonable - was she not a "champagne socialist"? At the time of the debate (1995?), Corbyn was unlikely to be a millionaire, surely? He might be today but won't part of the reason for that be his frugal lifestyle?

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Latest issue of "The Word" newspaper (as promoted by J Corbyn MP).

 

Just lacking that wee bit of not picturing a Jew on the cover while recycling Hitler slogans about Jews.

 

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You're going to have to help us out with some links, because the search terms required to verify that are just too vague.

 

I've never heard of "The Word"; I've no idea what Corbyn's connection to it is; I've seen no evidence that they avoid putting Jews on the front cover; and I've seen no evidence of them "recycling Hitler slogans".

 

(No offence, but "nullius in verba" is a good principle in general, but it's absolutely essential when it comes to your allegations about Corbyn.)

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