Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[cloggypop]

Like the Lib Dems being inextricably linked to the Tories.

[ZonkoVille77]

"End the benefits freeze"

 

There's one you can have for free.

Definitely world famous....

[Boss]

Actually the Tories brought it in. The Lib Dems blocked a freeze in coalition. But either way, it doesn't explain why the Labour manifesto didn't commit them to ending it.

 

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Education Maintenance Allowance

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Education Maintenance Allowance

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Decline Second Reading

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Second Reading

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — New Clause 2 — Childcare Element in Universal Credit

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Clause 5 — Exclusion of Up to Fifty Thousand Pounds in an ISA from Capital Used to Determine Universal Credit Eligibility

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Third Reading

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Local Government Finance Bill — Clause 8 — Move from Council Tax Benefit to Council Tax Reduction Schemes

Nick Clegg voted not to increase the time people can receive contribution based ESA from one year to at least 730 days.

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Clause 51 — Employment and Support Allowance for Those With Cancer

Nick Clegg voted not to exclude child benefit from the benefit cap.

Nick Clegg voted not to set the lower rate of the Universal Credit payment in relation to disabled children and young people at a minimum of two-thirds of the higher rate.

Nick Clegg voted not to add proposed exclusions from a reduction in housing benefits due to being deemed to have excess bedrooms.

Nick Clegg voted to cap any increase discretionary working age benefits and tax credits at 1% in 2014-15 and 2015-16

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Benefits Up-rating Bill — Clause 1 — Rate of Increase of Certain Benefits, Payments and Tax Credits

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Benefits Up-rating Bill — Clauses 1 to 3 and Schedule — Capping Increase of Specified Benefits at 1%

Nick Clegg voted to cap any increase in specified benefits payments and tax credits at 1% rather than allow them to increase by 2.2% in line with prices.

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Housing Benefit (Under-occupancy Penalty)

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Housing Benefit — Deductions for those deemed to have excess bedrooms

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Housing Benefit — Deductions for Those Deemed to Have Excess Bedrooms

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Benefit Entitlement (Restriction) Bill

[ZonkoVille77]

Bingo

[Rico1304]

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Education Maintenance Allowance

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Education Maintenance Allowance

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Decline Second Reading

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Second Reading

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — New Clause 2 — Childcare Element in Universal Credit

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Clause 5 — Exclusion of Up to Fifty Thousand Pounds in an ISA from Capital Used to Determine Universal Credit Eligibility

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Third Reading

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Local Government Finance Bill — Clause 8 — Move from Council Tax Benefit to Council Tax Reduction Schemes

Nick Clegg voted not to increase the time people can receive contribution based ESA from one year to at least 730 days.

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Reform Bill — Clause 51 — Employment and Support Allowance for Those With Cancer

Nick Clegg voted not to exclude child benefit from the benefit cap.

Nick Clegg voted not to set the lower rate of the Universal Credit payment in relation to disabled children and young people at a minimum of two-thirds of the higher rate.

Nick Clegg voted not to add proposed exclusions from a reduction in housing benefits due to being deemed to have excess bedrooms.

Nick Clegg voted to cap any increase discretionary working age benefits and tax credits at 1% in 2014-15 and 2015-16

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Benefits Up-rating Bill — Clause 1 — Rate of Increase of Certain Benefits, Payments and Tax Credits

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Welfare Benefits Up-rating Bill — Clauses 1 to 3 and Schedule — Capping Increase of Specified Benefits at 1%

Nick Clegg voted to cap any increase in specified benefits payments and tax credits at 1% rather than allow them to increase by 2.2% in line with prices.

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Housing Benefit (Under-occupancy Penalty)

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Housing Benefit — Deductions for those deemed to have excess bedrooms

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Opposition Day — Housing Benefit — Deductions for Those Deemed to Have Excess Bedrooms

Nick Clegg was absent for a vote on Benefit Entitlement (Restriction) Bill

Ok, can we parse all that?

 

Then compare to the great leader?

[Strontium]

Bingo? I suppose if you're playing some game of "Post the most irrelevant and inane thing you can find".

 

Still, if  "Yeah, but the Lib Dems" stops you having to talk about Labour and their support for the benefits freeze.

[Boss]

Jeremy Corbyn voted to call on the Government to keep the education maintenance allowance (EMA) in England.

Jeremy Corbyn voted to introduce a childcare element to Universal Credit.

Jeremy Corbyn voted to exclude up to fifty thousand pounds in an ISA from the assessment of capital used to determine if someone in work is eligible for Universal Credit.

Jeremy Corbyn voted to increase the time people can receive contribution based ESA from one year to at least 730 days.

Jeremy Corbyn voted to allow those with a cancer diagnosis or undergoing cancer treatment to continue to receive contribution based Employment and Support Allowance after the usual 365 day limit is reached.

Jeremy Corbyn voted to exclude child benefit from the benefit cap.

Jeremy Corbyn voted to set the lower rate of the Universal Credit payment in relation to disabled children and young people at a minimum of two-thirds of the higher rate.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against capping any increase discretionary working age benefits and tax credits at 1% in 2014-15 and 2015-16

Jeremy Corbyn voted not to cap specified benefits payments and tax credits at 1% potentially allowing them to increase by 2.2% in line with prices.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against a housing benefit under-occupancy penalty.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against reducing housing benefit for those deemed to have excess bedrooms.

Jeremy Corbyn voted to halt further spending and welfare cuts and to investigate the impact of austerity measures on the incidence of poverty and inequality.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against reducing the household benefit cap, against freezing the rate of many working-age benefits, against reducing social rents in England and against other changes to the benefits system.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against reducing the amounts people are paid in tax credits.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against proposed cuts to tax credits and for investment aimed at growing a productive economy focused on science, technology and green jobs.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against cutting universal credit benefits for many people in paid work

Jeremy Corbyn voted against reductions in benefits for disabled and ill claimants who are deemed capable of work.

[Rico1304]

So that a no then. Thanks.

 

Can you show me any legislation proposed and passed by JC in his career? Even if he just turned up by accident and brushed up against it.

[Strontium]

Passing legislation is for the ideologically impure.

[Gym Beglin]

Sick of this Palestinian cunt now.

[ZonkoVille77]

Bingo. 2 fat ladies, 88. Wobble wobble.

[Gym Beglin]

What a load of fucking tosh. It’s you, once again, trying to make yourself look clever.

 

Man of the people Corbyn changed fucking nothing for the people he was representing. Ever. Now, if he’d been an MP solely worried about his constituents perhaps that’s forgivable, but we know that’s not the case.

Wow, that’s a lovely opinion you’ve got there, mind If I ignore it and carry on with my life?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

How does that compare with other backbenchers?

Rico, you forgot to answer this.

 

[Edit]

I looked it up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Members%27_Bills_in_the_Parliament_of_the_United_Kingdom

 

In a typical session of Parliament, about half a dozen Private Members Bills become law. From this, we can infer that about 1% of backbenchers are effective and the other 99% are as shit and useless as Jeremy Corbyn.

[Rico1304]

Wow, that’s a lovely opinion you’ve got there, mind If I ignore it and carry on with my life?

What do you think? Seems like we’ve managed to exist without any interaction before now so feel fee to carry on doing the same.

 

How the fuck can someone ask if it’s ok to ignore you? Christ

[Strontium]

Ignorance is the new paradigm. I honestly wonder if Corbyn supporters and Trump supporters ever realise how much they have in common.

[Rico1304]

Rico, you forgot to answer this.

[Edit]

I looked it up.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Members'_Bills_in_the_Parliament_of_the_United_Kingdom

In a typical session of Parliament, about half a dozen Private Members Bills become law. From this, we can infer that about 1% of backbenchers are effective and the other 99% are as shit and useless as Jeremy Corbyn.

Forgot? What?

 

I don’t think many of them are worth fucking anything, but for someone who’s had the job 40 years to have literally fuck all to show for it and then be

lauded as the 2nd coming is a bit...fucking mental. Especially if their are ‘kids’ in their first terms who’ve done more whilst not being photographed abroad because they’ve not been abroad because they’ve been concentrating on their voters.

 

 

Edit: and that’s 1 session. How many sessions has he had? Don’t forget to do the maths for me.

[polymerpunkah]

Rico I've got to pull you up on this, having lived just south of his constituency for a while now the number of people I've met who Corbyn has directly helped either through making representation, guiding to the right bodies or lobbying for funds for is ludicrously high. In particular his work for disabled members of the community including chasing up money for housing (and amendments needed to make their homes usable) and for professional support workers is particularly commendable.

 

If anything as a critique I would have said in his parliamentary career he was perhaps too constituency orientated, though I suppose that is a route a fringe backbencher can take.

 

When I was growing up Malcolm Bruce and latterly Alex Salmond were no-where near as high profile in my local constituency, though a couple of caveats, it's fairly rural and the later was in a lot of photos pressing the flesh with local business men. 

[Rico1304]

Oops I did it again...

 

https://twitter.com/daniel_sugarman/status/1029840499388178437?s=21

[sir roger]

Corbyn in ' Not Marty McFly ' scandal again.

[Strontium]

Oops I did it again...

 

https://twitter.com/daniel_sugarman/status/1029840499388178437?s=21

Of course you already know what the response is going to be.

 

"Yeah, but Israel"

"Yeah, but Tony Blair"

"Yeah, but the Tories"

etc

[Strontium]

Corbyn in ' Not Marty McFly ' scandal again.

Yeah, how could anyone possibly suspect that the leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine might be involved in anything shady.

[sir roger]

Yeah, but the Jewish Chronicle.

[sir roger]

Yeah, how could anyone possibly suspect that the leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine might be involved in anything shady

 

I know , if only these Palestinian ' types ' could be as noble and upstanding as their Israeli foes.

[Strontium]

I know , if only these Palestinian ' types ' could be as noble and upstanding as their Israeli foes.

As predicted, right on cue.

 

We're now in a situation where the leader of the opposition is consorting with terror chiefs who send mobs into synagogues to murder people with axes.

 

But that's okay, because Israel.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Ignorance is the new paradigm. I honestly wonder if Corbyn supporters and Trump supporters ever realise how much they have in common.

Bless!