Someone's having a real laugh - shitcoat to Utd.

[Ronnie Whelan]

We all blame Souness for our demise yet by your logic we should be laying the blame at the kings door. He left behind 7 or 8 world class players with not a lot left in the tank. Who's fault is it if Paul Stewart is signed to replace Ronnie Whelan or Marouanne Fellani is chosen as Paul Scholes replacement?

 

There is no argument that both clubs could have been handed over in better condition but equally there can't be an argument that 1 or 2 top class players per season keeps the roll thing rolling along. If Souness had signed Shearer and Keane the dominance would have continued for another 10 years.

From what i heard, souey took on the dressing room of established stars like nicol,whelan,rush,brucie and barnsie. He felt they weren't willing to change for him and in the case of some of them he was personally close to them as a player.

 

The ruthlessness that made him such a great player led to him being a mediocre manager and overnight he ripped the heart out of the club. Those players loved the club and if it was handled properly, they would have changed their diet and training routines etc. His signings were poor but given how rushed it all was, it was inevitable.

[Chip Butty]

We all blame Souness for our demise yet by your logic we should be laying the blame at the kings door. He left behind 7 or 8 world class players with not a lot left in the tank. Who's fault is it if Paul Stewart is signed to replace Ronnie Whelan or Marouanne Fellani is chosen as Paul Scholes replacement?

 

There is no argument that both clubs could have been handed over in better condition but equally there can't be an argument that 1 or 2 top class players per season keeps the roll thing rolling along. If Souness had signed Shearer and Keane the dominance would have continued for another 10 years.

 

We all, absolutely don't and, the logic you state is absolutely nothing like that. To see our demise, you look off the pitch not just on it. When every team was gearing itself for the new PL game and the riches that would come, we were still thinking everything revolved around the pitch something I believe Peter Robinson who had done so much for the club, didn't have the foresight to see, add to that Heysel and then Hillsborough and there was that much going on at the club, that it brought it too its knees. So to pin it all on Souness, is way off the mark. In a 5 -6 year period to have so much change would in my opinion, broken a club less resilient than ours. No way can you compare one mans reign, to a club and a city that had gone through the mill on a number of occasions, it's not even in the same the league. 

[magicrat]

We all, absolutely don't and, the logic you state is absolutely nothing like that. To see our demise, you look off the pitch not just on it. When every team was gearing itself for the new PL game and the riches that would come, we were still thinking everything revolved around the pitch something I believe Peter Robinson who had done so much for the club, didn't have the foresight to see, add to that Heysel and then Hillsborough and there was that much going on at the club, that it brought it too its knees. So to pin it all on Souness, is way off the mark. In a 5 -6 year period to have so much change would in my opinion, broken a club less resilient than ours. No way can you compare one mans reign, to a club and a city that had gone through the mill on a number of occasions, it's not even in the same the league. 

 

 

I agree with much of this, The management structure we had wasn't fit for purpose in the PL and we believed Liverpool was a winning brand without the same level of investment as our rivals,  The Mancs have had a similar reality check post Slur but hardly unexpected. We sleepwalked into mediocrity after the PL started,  

[Chip Butty]

I agree with much of this, The management structure we had wasn't fit for purpose in the PL and we believed Liverpool was a winning brand without the same level of investment as our rivals,  The Mancs have had a similar reality check post Slur but hardly unexpected. We sleepwalked into mediocrity after the PL started,  

Bang on statement of what we did and what we were like. 

 

The only similarity between us and the mancs, were that we both never had the foresight to see these issues ahead and react accordingly before the issue arose. 

[Lario]

That's very subjective, how many have we scored as a club and how many have both conceded?

 

By their very definition, stats can't be subjective.

 

How people interpret said stats is subjective.

[magicrat]

Bang on statement of what we did and what we were like. 

 

The only similarity between us and the mancs, were that we both never had the foresight to see these issues ahead and react accordingly before the issue arose. 

 

I think the Mancs did see the pitfalls ahead after Ferguson but whilst the old boy was bringing home the bacon there wasn't enough consensus to replace him. He won the title in his last year with a team that really had no right to be anywhere near the top of the league, Moyes walked into a side running on fumes and no talisman . It was bound to be a rail crash as everyone knew including the club. Now plan A and  B have failed, Plan C with Maureen looks a busted flush where do they go ?  A problem made 10 times worse by them being eclipsed by the lottery winners down the road, A long road back as we know only too well,

[rubble-rouser]

I think the lunacy of the fuckhead fans embracing Mourinho because they have nowhere else to go is hilarious. The honest Utd fans realise he's toxic, but a large body of their support can't bring themselves  to accept that they  are  totally shafted.

[Section_31]

"Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho has reportedly accepted a suspended one-year prison sentence after defrauding the Spanish tax authorities of around €3.3million (£2.9m)."

 

 

Slippery cunt.

[TheBitch]

Last thing we need right now is Jose doing time.

[Lario]

I'd gladly accept a one year suspended sentence for €3.3m.

 

If anyone is offering like.

[aws]

The Mancs may well be able to sack him now without compensation assuming his contract has some sort of disrepute clause.

[Harry Squatter]

Do all footballers and managers in Spain have shit accountants?. Or do they all just avoid tax by putting it in their dogs bank account like Harry Redknapp?

[Trumo]

"Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho has reportedly accepted a suspended one-year prison sentence after defrauding the Spanish tax authorities of around €3.3million (£2.9m)."

 

 

Slippery cunt.

 

They never have to actually serve these sentences.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Do all footballers and managers in Spain have shit accountants?. Or do they all just avoid tax by putting it in their dogs bank account like Harry Redknapp?

Seems like they all try to cheat the tax man because they know if they get caught they can just pay a fine and accept a suspended sentence. Lester Piggott went to jail here, whilst Ronaldo paid £15m and skipped away from Spain.

[Dr Nowt]

Ken Dodd avoided jail mind.

[Dr Nowt]

Any takers?

[Jairzinho]

Any undertakers?

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Ken Dodd avoided jail mind.

That might be because he was acquitted.

 

I'm not a legal expert though.

[Dr Nowt]

Did he?

No, Doddy.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

No, Doddy.

Glad to see you're using your holiday time wisely mate.

[Dr Nowt]

Glad to see you're using your holiday time wisely mate.

You scoundrel.

[Section_31]

Do you know how many times I got bummed in the showers? Sree

[Trumo]

Ken Dodd avoided jail mind.

 

The judge took pity on him because his father's pet Labrador passed away.

[Jennings]

The judge took pity on him because his father's pet Labrador passed away.

 

Ken Dodd's Dags Dods deg?

[Bobby Hundreds]

Ken told the inland revenue didn't owe them money because he lived by the sea.