Loris Karius

[VladimirIlyich]

I think most of the errors Karius makes are basic stuff would be easy to spot if you were his goalkeeping coach,same goes for Mignolet too. There is something rotten in the state of our goalkeeping coaching.

[BCM]

Agree with this. I suspect Karius isn't good enough but nothing happened on Sunday which altered my opinion of him either way.

 

Agree also. We will find out if he's good enough between now and the end of the season anyway. Lets see how he performs with a run of games under his belt

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I think most of the errors Karius makes are basic stuff would be easy to spot if you were his goalkeeping coach,same goes for Mignolet too. There is something rotten in the state of our goalkeeping coaching.

 

Reaction times mate. Look at them when they play, it is like they are waiting for a penalty to be taken, they don't look at the angle/feet of the player hitting the ball, they wait to see where the ball is going and then are a second late on their reaction to it, especially Karius. This is magnified by the fact they are normally behind long shots as they have more time to react, or when facing a close range header where reaction is just instinctive. Then you have to factor in that neither are confident in coming off their line for crosses to command the box. I agree that something is untoward in how they are being coached. 

[Carvalho Diablo]

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karius and Achterberg in melwood training.

 

Haha

[Carvalho Diablo]

Reaction times mate. Look at them when they play, it is like they are waiting for a penalty to be taken, they don't look at the angle/feet of the player hitting the ball, they wait to see where the ball is going and then are a second late on their reaction to it, especially Karius. This is magnified by the fact they are normally behind long shots as they have more time to react, or when facing a close range header where reaction is just instinctive. Then you have to factor in that neither are confident in coming off their line for crosses to command the box. I agree that something is untoward in how they are being coached. 

 

Having watched Karius tearing shit up in the Bundesliga for 18 months with Mainz I do think it's frightening just how he's regressed since he's been a Red.

 

Still far better than that Belgian pear nonce imo.

[Hand Shandy]

Having watched Karius tearing shit up in the Bundesliga for 18 months with Mainz I do think it's frightening just how he's regressed since he's been a Red.

 

Still far better than that Belgian pear nonce imo.

One word. Three syllables.

 

Achterberg.

[Baltar]

Still far better than that Belgian pear nonce imo.

Absolutely no evidence of this whatsoever. Not since he's been at Liverpool.

 

Both are hopeless and are holding us back.

[VladimirIlyich]

Absolutely no evidence of this whatsoever. Not since he's been at Liverpool.

 

Both are hopeless and are holding us back.

Neither are holding us back,they just aren't of the required standard. Karius could possibly get there but I still have major doubts over him while Mignolet will never get any better.

[VladimirIlyich]

Reaction times mate. Look at them when they play, it is like they are waiting for a penalty to be taken, they don't look at the angle/feet of the player hitting the ball, they wait to see where the ball is going and then are a second late on their reaction to it, especially Karius. This is magnified by the fact they are normally behind long shots as they have more time to react, or when facing a close range header where reaction is just instinctive. Then you have to factor in that neither are confident in coming off their line for crosses to command the box. I agree that something is untoward in how they are being coached.

Lack of footwork,poor use of angles,narrowing angles(Karius could have nicked half a yard on Sane but stayed rooted to his line.) There are just too many faults to highlight to be honest.

[TheHowieLama]

Footwork and positioning are things a keeper picks up in his 20's playing professionally?

[magicrat]

I can't see anything in Karius to suggest he will make it in the top flight , Giving him a run in the team just seems to be delaying the inevitable and very possibly costing us some important games.  

[dockers_strike]

I can't see anything in Karius to suggest he will make it in the top flight , Giving him a run in the team just seems to be delaying the inevitable and very possibly costing us some important games.  

 

Have to agree.

[Red Hot]

Yes I feel he is a bag of nerves no confidence in himself what so ever.

[ZonkoVille77]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he's fucking shite.

[Red Hot]

Agreed !

[magicrat]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he's fucking shite.

 

Good point well made

[Unrighteous]

I think most of the errors Karius makes are basic stuff would be easy to spot if you were his goalkeeping coach,same goes for Mignolet too. There is something rotten in the state of our goalkeeping coaching.

 

This.  So many fucking times this.

[Red Hot]

For me he has the cany knack of being in the right place at the wrong time.

[Wezza]

This is on his Wiki Page

 

Karius became friends with Canadian singer Justin Bieber after meeting him while on holiday in Miami during the summer of 2015; the heavily tattooed Karius stated that: "we were in the same hotel, [bieber] admired my tattoos and I responded to it. He was cool. He promised to invite me to one of his concerts

[Elite]

This is on his Wiki Page

 

Karius became friends with Canadian singer Justin Bieber after meeting him while on holiday in Miami during the summer of 2015; the heavily tattooed Karius stated that: "we were in the same hotel, [bieber] admired my tattoos and I responded to it. He was cool. He promised to invite me to one of his concerts

He didn't end up going, he never saved his number.

[VladimirIlyich]

Footwork and positioning are things a keeper picks up in his 20's playing professionally?

I get a hint of sarcasm here? Every 10 year old prospective goalkeeper should work on footwork and positioning in almost every session. Its why I have little confidence in Karius either,even though none of these basics were a problem at Mainz.

[Red Hot]

Maybe this is due to the change to the shear speed of the game in the prem.  He just cant move up a knotch in speed of thought.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

He is certainly up there as one of the best goalkeepers bought by these owners.

If ever I need a definition of "damning with faint praise".

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Agree also. We will find out if he's good enough between now and the end of the season anyway. Lets see how he performs with a run of games under his belt

This is it for me. We've seen how Mignolet performs over what feels like an eternity. It's not nice. With Karius, he is starting at Mignolet's level and there's at least a possibility he may improve.

[VladimirIlyich]

Maybe this is due to the change to the shear speed of the game in the prem.  He just cant move up a knotch in speed of thought.

This is a bit of a myth as the Bundesliga is often as fast as the Prem and has just as many goals,maybe more but the step up to a bigger club maybe a valid reason.