Loris Karius

[moof]

"Good morning, Loris. Would you like to reply to Gary Neville's comments?"

 

"No, thanks. Good day."

Or "fuck Gary Neville, the little rat gobshite"

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Typical youngsters response when getting stick or under pressure imo.

If it's good enough for the President-Elect...

[AngryOfTuebrook]

The word you're looking for is simplistic, there are far too many outside factors that influence it for it to give anything really meaningful.

The saves-per-goal ratio comes into its own when we're talking about Mignolet, because the one thing people say in his defence (accepting that every other aspect of his game is fucking horrible) is that "he's a good shot-stopper".

 

No.  He demonstrably isn't.

[TheHowieLama]

Or ala Mourinho - he is the unluckiest goalkeeper in the league.

Probably closer to making those saves than he was further from them.

[TheHowieLama]

WTF!!! 

[Cardie]

The saves-per-goal ratio comes into its own when we're talking about Mignolet, because the one thing people say in his defence (accepting that every other aspect of his game is fucking horrible) is that "he's a good shot-stopper".

 

No.  He demonstrably isn't.

 

It's a bullshit stat.

 

What's counted as a shot, are all shots equal, is the chance of a keeper saving any given shot equal, does the opposition impact the result, do the team instructions impact the result, who's playing in front of the keeper, does the team the keepers playing for play a high line that subjects them to more one on ones or does the team crowd the box which increases the likely hood of deflections, do deflections count as shots.

 

It's not about Karius over Mignolet or vice versa it's the nature of overly simplistic bullshit statistics to prove a point one way or the other especially when it comes to certain positions in football.

 

By 3 stacks logic Mignolet has a lower shots per saves ratio than Karius this season and is therefore the worse of the two but without question the erratic nature of Karius' performances has led to more mistakes (granted over more games) and Mignolet has been the steadier keeper.

 

That doesn't mean Mignolet should start, it just means the stat, in isolation, is shit and I'd want far more information when judging the merits of any 'keeper.

[3 Stacks]

It's a bullshit stat.

 

What's counted as a shot, are all shots equal, is the chance of a keeper saving any given shot equal, does the opposition impact the result, do the team instructions impact the result, who's playing in front of the keeper, does the team the keepers playing for play a high line that subjects them to more one on ones or does the team crowd the box which increases the likely hood of deflections, do deflections count as shots.

 

It's not about Karius over Mignolet or vice versa it's the nature of overly simplistic bullshit statistics to prove a point one way or the other especially when it comes to certain positions in football.

 

By 3 stacks logic Mignolet has a lower shots per saves ratio than Karius this season and is therefore the worse of the two but without question the erratic nature of Karius' performances has led to more mistakes (granted over more games) and Mignolet has been the steadier keeper.

 

That doesn't mean Mignolet should start, it just means the stat, in isolation, is shit and I'd want far more information when judging the merits of any 'keeper.

 

To be clear, I don't need some stat to show me that Mignolet is a terrible keeper or that Karius is better. Then again, maybe other people like yourself do because when things are being said like "Mignolet has been the steadier keeper" when he's been nothing short of disgraceful for the last 3 seasons, then something that isn't too complicated like saves per goal could help clarify things a bit for you.

[Funkasy]

But we can all agree on that they are both pretty shit. But Karius could make a living out of being pretty. 

[Iceman]

The Moreno between the sticks so far I'm afraid.

Another twat with tats but still time for him to turn it around. He wants to avoid getting into it with mancs on instatwat though. Save the talk and walk the walk. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

It's a bullshit stat.

 

What's counted as a shot, are all shots equal, is the chance of a keeper saving any given shot equal, does the opposition impact the result, do the team instructions impact the result, who's playing in front of the keeper, does the team the keepers playing for play a high line that subjects them to more one on ones or does the team crowd the box which increases the likely hood of deflections, do deflections count as shots.

 

It's not about Karius over Mignolet or vice versa it's the nature of overly simplistic bullshit statistics to prove a point one way or the other especially when it comes to certain positions in football.

 

By 3 stacks logic Mignolet has a lower shots per saves ratio than Karius this season and is therefore the worse of the two but without question the erratic nature of Karius' performances has led to more mistakes (granted over more games) and Mignolet has been the steadier keeper.

 

That doesn't mean Mignolet should start, it just means the stat, in isolation, is shit and I'd want far more information when judging the merits of any 'keeper.

All those caveats in your first paragraph are dealt with by a big enough sample size. We've got several seasons of data on Mignolet. It ain't pretty.

 

Any statistic in isolation can be misleading. Fortunately, we've got the context of 3 years of shit goalkeeping.

[aRdja]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/09/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-lorius-karius-bournemouth-tactic-worst-thing?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[skend04]

Fucking hell. Gone full mong central in here. We were near to 6 hours without conceding a goal and all of sudden everyone is shit except for Matip. Have a word with yourselves. And as for the Gary Neville comments it came in a full interview about a range of things including a comment about Carra's views. Just bizarre.

[Stickman]

Fuck rat faced Neville , Brian Reade sums up the shit bag.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pulling-punches-jose-mourinho-manchester-9412022

[Captain]

Fuck rat faced Neville , Brian Reade sums up the shit bag.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pulling-punches-jose-mourinho-manchester-9412022

 

The real story there is the stuff about Balotelli's LFC contract.

 

Fucking hell.

[magicrat]

The real story there is the stuff about Balotelli's LFC contract.

 

Fucking hell.

[magicrat]

The real story there is the stuff about Balotelli's LFC contract.

 

Fucking hell.

 

Mental stuff, Even a retard like Balotelli could work out he would a million better off if he went full hatstand and didn't have to play any football. Reminds me of

[ZonkoVille77]

He's absolutely fuckin shite

[Elite]

I hate the useless cunt

[thompsonsnose]

Complete and utter shite.

Sorry laddo, you'll not make it here.

[Mark M]

When i read his pop at Neville I knew he'd follow it up with a shite performance. Just keep your fucking mouth shut lad and try and stop a few shots.

[Josef Svejk]

Hopeless.

[Elite]

When i read his pop at Neville I knew he'd follow it up with a shite performance. Just keep your fucking mouth shut lad and try and stop a few shots.

Or just fuck off and dissapear.

[Strontium]

The worst keeper we've ever had, by an absolute country mile.

[KMD7]

He's fucking woeful and has been since his first appearance. Get rid

[The Golden Eel]

Can't catch, can't make saves, indecisive in every situation. The fact that he's in the team is Klopp's fault though, not his.