Loris Karius

[Bjornebye]

Loris Turdius

Never heard of the shit

[bonesman]

How long before the eye of Jurgen casts itself upon, the little hobbit Achterburg ?

[jimmycase]

How long before the eye of Jurgen casts itself upon, the little hobbit Achterburg ?

 

Im thinking the fact he took on a 42 year old 3rd choice keeper in manninger is a sign that klopp wants him to take over as keeper coach at the end of the season.

[VladimirIlyich]

Its stupid because if you want to win a league title, as a manager you have to beruthless and not sympathetic to the players feelings. If a player isnt performing they get dropped.

 

Yes, its a team game, have you really been impressed with Karius since he was given his chance? If mignolet had of put that goalkick out for a corner would you have just accepted it? He's looked worse than mignolet on crosses than mignolet.

 

Its ok if you think his performance is acceptable and that the manager shouldnt look at the situation and put mignolet back it. It is about opinions after all.

 

As I said, both keepers dont look up to the job. One of them was talked about as the new neuer. Im not seeing any hint of that.

I think sensible people generally give GKs around a season's worth of games before making snap judgements on goalkeeper. Mignolet saved a penalty on his league debut about 3/4 seasons ago. Its safe to make a judgement on him after all this time,Karius not yet. He is also in the team because our manager,2 Bundesliga titles,German Cup,Champions League finalist,thinks he's better for the team based on distribution and positioning and I happen to agree. We did not lose a game in which we were 3-1 up solely because of Loris Karius.

[Einch]

Im thinking the fact he took on a 42 year old 3rd choice keeper in manninger is a sign that klopp wants him to take over as keeper coach at the end of the season.

 

Can I change my Christmas list to have this at the top?

[Cardie]

I think we give the lad a break.

 

He's been nervous since he came in, dreading something like this. Well he can stop worrying now, it's happened, and he can begin properly.

 

The team fell apart today, there's fingers pointing everywhere, he shouldn't feel like the only one under scrutiny.

It happened against Wigan.

[Cardie]

Regardless about how people feel about Karius, he's still performing better than Mignolet. Even after conceding 4 goals, his saves per goal is still better than Mignolet's this season and it's miles better than Mignolet's was last season. Making him the number one was and is the correct decision and he will step up. He's far better than what he's shown.

Which should tell you everything you need to know about how shit some goalkeeping stats are.

 

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[thegreatelephant]

I think sensible people generally give GKs around a season's worth of games before making snap judgements on goalkeeper. Mignolet saved a penalty on his league debut about 3/4 seasons ago. Its safe to make a judgement on him after all this time,Karius not yet. He is also in the team because our manager,2 Bundesliga titles,German Cup,Champions League finalist,thinks he's better for the team based on distribution and positioning and I happen to agree. We did not lose a game in which we were 3-1 up solely because of Loris Karius.

 

yeah, agree with all that and on the GK position. De Gea was shite here initially making gaffes and turned it round. it's hard not to succumb to initial anger over the whole result and what went on. but you have to try to give the boy a fair run in a position where it's notoriously more difficult to settle straight away.

 

the outfield players have a lot to answer for discipline wise last Sunday and that referee was a fucking twat whipping it all up to start with, with his bullshit in that tight ground. Klopp might have learned a thing or two also over certain decisions he made for the game and during it while it was all imploding in front of our faces. which hopefully will override the loss of the three points in the long run. we are still in a tidy position.

 

test of Karius and his character though and wish him all the best as it's going to be more tough for him now that's for sure. some of those Sunday culprits have repeated form for that sort of capitulation. for years on end.

[VladimirIlyich]

yeah, agree with all that and on the GK position. De Gea was shite here initially making gaffes and turned it round. it's hard not to succumb to initial anger over the whole result and what went on. but you have to try to give the boy a fair run in a position where it's notoriously more difficult to settle straight away.

 

the outfield players have a lot to answer for discipline wise last Sunday and that referee was a fucking twat whipping it all up to start with, with his bullshit in that tight ground. Klopp might have learned a thing or two also over certain decisions he made for the game and during it while it was all imploding in front of our faces. which hopefully will override the loss of the three points in the long run. we are still in a tidy position.

 

test of Karius and his character though and wish him all the best as it's going to be more tough for him now that's for sure. some of those Sunday culprits have repeated form for that sort of capitulation. for years on end.

Its going to be a big test to see if this team can shake this kind a capitulation off very quickly. As you hinted above,a fair few of them bottled it against Seville only a few months back. Any kind of repeat of these episodes should make heads roll.

[3 Stacks]

Which should tell you everything you need to know about how shit some goalkeeping stats are.

 

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Saves per goal is about the simplest way to determine if a goal keeper is a good shot stopper. It's not some random, hard to understand metric. Mignolet's is an absolute joke. He was basically conceding 1 in every 2 shots on target last season. Whatever you think of stats in football, that's unacceptable and it shows that he shouldn't be near our goal regardless of how mediocre Karius has been himself thus far.

[magicrat]

We usexd to be q

[magicrat]

We used to be quite good at getting competent , often outstanding keepers,. We seem to have confounded the odds and recruited two complete Turkeys, 

[littletedwest]

De gea was shit at United at first.

Fingers crossed

[littletedwest]

We used to be quite good at getting competent , often outstanding keepers,. We seem to have confounded the odds and recruited two complete Turkeys,

 

Your must have some memory

[bonesman]

Karius: "I don’t care what Gary Neville said. He was a manager for a short bit and now he is back to being an expert again."

[magicrat]

Your must have some memory

 

My memory goes back to the Flying Pig

[magicrat]

Karius: "I don’t care what Gary Neville said. He was a manager for a short bit and now he is back to being an expert again."

 

Karius will go back to following Justin Bieber around by that logic. Can't wait 

[Tony Moanero]

Makes Karius come across as a bit of a dick, that.

[bonesman]

Typical youngsters response when getting stick or under pressure imo.

[moof]

Makes Karius come across as a bit of a dick, that.

What, that comment about Neville? Oh, come on.

 

We want the lad to have some fire in his belly, he's going to need it because the vultures are already circling.

[TheHowieLama]

Saves per goal is about the simplest way to determine if a goal keeper is a good shot stopper. It's not some random, hard to understand metric. Mignolet's is an absolute joke. 

 

Unfortunately Karius is scantly better at 1.3. 

 

Keepers of the ilk of Courtois or Cech are nearly twice that. Going to be difficult sledding with either of these blerts in goal.

[Cardie]

 

 

What, that comment about Neville? Oh, come on.

 

We want the lad to have some fire in his belly, he's going to need it because the vultures are already circling.

I'd rather see that 'fire' converted into good performances than instagram posts.

[moof]

 

I'd rather see that 'fire' converted into good performances than instagram posts.

Controversial

[Jairzinho]

"Good morning, Loris. Would you like to reply to Gary Neville's comments?"

 

"No, thanks. Good day."

[Cardie]

Saves per goal is about the simplest way to determine if a goal keeper is a good shot stopper.

 

The word you're looking for is simplistic, there are far too many outside factors that influence it for it to give anything really meaningful.