So, world war three

[Red Phoenix]

If there's any aliens out there of the non-fascist variety and these fucking amateurs are really prepared to use nukes, I'd rather the planet just got colonized at this stage. Then give us a decade or three to try sorting ourselves out before we get any other chance of freedom. We clearly aren't responsible enough to be "in charge" of this planet. It's an absolute joke, and collectively we should've never allowed these stupid fucks to get so entrenched in power in the first place.

 

If we get nuked it's our own fucking fault. Maybe a future version of the Human race won't sit around watching X-Factor so much and actually get organized to create some real change. These people shouldn't be ruling over us, what's happening now should be enough evidence of that.

[Rico1304]

The Oil market price fluctuation, is a behind the scenes power grapple, with OPEC looking to really muck with western economies and see what happens in the chaos. It's a dry run for the main event to come.

 

Ultimately though, we are our own worst enemy - the fractional reserve banking system is dead but won't lie down, as long as we continue administering electric shock jump starts called 'QE'

Last week we bought our​ 'Grab And Go' disaster kits (dynamo torches, thermal blankets, light sticks, and assorted items.) We have full gas bottles on hand, an old gas scouting stove, and canned food for six months.

It is small comfort.

I can afford about 3 ounces of Gold, but I'm tempted to go for silver in half ounce amounts. It will be valuable currency when the NZ$ goes into hyper-inflation, as all currencies will, after 'The Great Deflation'.

 Zimbabwe and Venezuala​ are already hyper-inflating - Venezuala have just revalued (dropped 3 zeros off the value of their Bolivar)

.Not long now. 1​2 months maybe.

Are you seriously preparing for the end of civilisation?

 

Can I have your telly?

[Stouffer]

There'll be an ED-209 on every street before long.

 

{Crosses fingers}

[Rico1304]

Are you seriously preparing for the end of civilisation?

Can I have your telly?

What about paying your mortgage? If you have kids have you taken them out of school?

 

Have you taken loads of loans out? I'm fascinated.

 

If you're right how will you cope with other people? Can we have another thread on this?

[littletedwest]

When he started going on about Obama being a secret Shia and wanting to do the US damage he lost me.

Yeah Obama is a secret muslim the fact he has been seen eating bacon, drinking beer ect.

Fucking loonies if his skin was white and his name was frank Jones nobody would raise such absolute nonsense

[General Dryness]

What about paying your mortgage? If you have kids have you taken them out of school?

 

Have you taken loads of loans out? I'm fascinated.

 

If you're right how will you cope with other people? Can we have another thread on this?

He's in New Zealand too. I'm going to track the cunt down and steal his gold and torches.

[Anubis]

Im toast

I live less than 5 miles from Northwood

 

It is home to five military command and control functions:

 

Headquarters, 

Joint Forces Command

The Permanent Joint Head quarters

The Multi National Headquarters The Commander Operations for the Royal Navy

The NATO Allied Maritime Command

I had no idea they were all based in Kirkby.

[KopOut]

Are you seriously preparing for the end of civilisation?

 

Can I have your telly?

I'm preparing (as best as I can)for the economic chaos that comes when a global monetary system collapses - which it does regularly. We get a new one roughly every 40-50 yrs. Bretton Woods in 44, Nixon takes us off the gold standard in the early '70s and after 20 yrs of complete financial deregulation you think we have stability?

 

There's always some pain during large scale change.

[Rico1304]

I'm preparing (as best as I can)for the economic chaos that comes when a global monetary system collapses - which it does regularly. We get a new one roughly every 40-50 yrs. Bretton Woods in 44, Nixon takes us off the gold standard in the early '70s and after 20 yrs of complete financial deregulation you think we have stability?

There's always some pain during large scale change.

I'm not having a go, you seem to have a strong opinion on the economics and I'm not qualified to argue (although the ship bit was wrong wasn't it?)

 

How many people do you have in your family? How many tins per day - say 6, we'd need over 3000. Do you have a gun? Do you have petrol/diesel?

[KopOut]

I'm not having a go, you seem to have a strong opinion on the economics and I'm not qualified to argue (although the ship bit was wrong wasn't it?)

 

How many people do you have in your family? How many tins per day - say 6, we'd need over 3000. Do you have a gun? Do you have petrol/diesel?

Well, as for 'the ship bit' it was reported on national television here, and I've seen several references to the BDI.

 

However, this is something Ive researched extensively since 2007. Of course there's only so much one can do, like paying off as much debt as possible, minimising expenses and getting involved in local currency exchanges (Ive been trading in 'green dollars' for about 6 yrs, and although it's paper money, it's a closed system with no 'financial leaks' like the national dollar.

 

I could be wrong, but I think that the concept of negative interest rates and helicopter money will turn the current deflationary period into massive debasement of most sovereign currencies - a global Weimar if you like - until the right nations finally admit the experiment in unregulated fiat money has failed, come together, and provide stability through restoring either a gold standard or equiv, together with a fixed exchange rate system to stop the giant non productive gambling casino that has brought us to this point.

 

I have friends with guns, but I currently dont own one.

 

We have tinned food for 2 months for two people x 2 meals a day. We have sacks of rice, and we grow veges from heritage seed. My kids live overseas. Australia. So its just two of us

 

Two months food wont be enough, we are still growing the supply, but its really just a supplement for frugal living if we become unemployed. I think we can expect 30% unemployment - 60% of NZ's GDP is services - we're a low wage economy. Dairy is collapsing already. Tourism is fickle. We import all our oil. Hospital services are already stretched. We're a glorified 3rd world country.

 

It'll get worse before it gets better.

[Rico1304]

Thanks, very interesting.

[General Dryness]

We're a glorified 3rd world country.

I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

 

Seriously though, you might be overreacting a bit.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

 

Seriously though, you might be overreacting a bit.

 

Doing dummy runs by living in a cellar surrounded by tin cans for days on end probably has side effects. 

[General Dryness]

Thank god they don't still put lead in them.

 

His wardrobe would consist entirely of his own feces.

[KopOut]

What about paying your mortgage? If you have kids have you taken them out of school?

 

Have you taken loads of loans out? I'm fascinated.

 

If you're right how will you cope with other people? Can we have another thread on this?

I' shelling out $44.00 a week on mortgage protection.

 

In the event of redundancy, the mortgage is paid off. Rates and house insurance obviously will still be there, but assuming welfare payments at full entitlement, easily affordable.

 

We've spent five years paying off all other debt.

 

There'll be a period of real stress where credit in banks is limited in its use- cash withdrawals obviously, banned - before governments recognise the system as dead in the water.

 

Hard to say how long that period of time will be. 1 month, 3, 6.

 

The finer details are a guessing game.

 

Oh - btw - Venezuala has run out of food.

[KopOut]

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/02/12/venezuela-has-run-out-of-food/

[KopOut]

https://www.phoenixcapitalmarketing.com/crashguide.pdf?inf_contact_key=d48253ec6b5d2cec5c47db9e9eb47398d878842144a54809d031ce90d7305238

[Rico1304]

Very interesting about Venezuela as I'm sure loads on here were holding them up to be a great socialist example - I'm sure they nationalised loads of industries. Could be wrong.

[Jose Jones]

Venezuela should have everything. They've got a good mix of climates for growing all kinds of food. Plenty of space. Beautiful Caribbean coastline and islands plus awesome Tepuis for the holiday crowds. Oh and shitloads of oil. Pretty poor how varying degrees of decades of mismanagement have fucked that up.

[Jairzinho]

Venezuela should have everything. They've got a good mix of climates for growing all kinds of food. Plenty of space. Beautiful Caribbean coastline and islands plus awesome Tepuis for the holiday crowds. Oh and shitloads of oil. Pretty poor how varying degrees of decades of mismanagement have fucked that up.

 

There is also one other rather big stumbling block when you're a left wing Latin American country that happens to be friends with Cuba, Iran, Russia, and China.

[cloggypop]

Venezuela has been destroyed by the oil price.

[Stu Monty]

Very interesting about Venezuela as I'm sure loads on here were holding them up to be a great socialist example - I'm sure they nationalised loads of industries. Could be wrong.

Example of what?

[Jose Jones]

There is also one other rather big stumbling block when you're a left wing Latin American country that happens to be friends with Cuba, Iran, Russia, and China.

Vested interests of all types since the 70s amigo.

[Jairzinho]

Vested interests of all types since the 70s amigo.

 

Not all of them staged a coup d'etat though.

[VladimirIlyich]

Venezuela should have everything. They've got a good mix of climates for growing all kinds of food. Plenty of space. Beautiful Caribbean coastline and islands plus awesome Tepuis for the holiday crowds. Oh and shitloads of oil. Pretty poor how varying degrees of decades of mismanagement have fucked that up.

The good old USA constantly trying to overthrow the government by proxy can have a very big impact on trying to run a country. Despite this though they managed to have free healthcare and improve the literacy rate and decrease the infant mortality rate. I think these rates may be more favourable than the US in a lot of cases too.

Its pretty amazing considering how they have managed to do this for so long despite the outside pressure trying to carve up its resources.

It will unfortunately fail at sometime it seems.