Summer Transfer Ballache 2016

[liverpoolsno9]

Danny Drinkwater, a player who has done fuck all for his entire career and just had his only decent season.

 

What kind of idiots would go chasing after him?

 

Maybe the same idiots who are all chasing Kante?

[Captain]

Danny Drinkwater, a player who has done fuck all for his entire career and just had his only decent season.

 

What kind of idiots would go chasing after him?

 

The same kind of idiots who thought it a good idea for Liverpool to raid Southampton for their players?

[Wicket]

Danny Drinkwater, a player who has done fuck all for his entire career and just had his only decent season.

 

What kind of idiots would go chasing after him?

Haha

 

It's only because it's us that a link with Drinkwater seems entirely plausible.

[Phoenix]

Maybe the same idiots who are all chasing Kante?

 

Wouldn't go for him either to be honest.

 

I dont think he will have that kind of season again.

[Lee909]

Pretty much ever present for the Champions might suggest otherwise.

Alternatively a player who played two seasons in the top flight and was a fitlrst teamer nearly relegated a year ago. Also a midfielder for a team that sit deep and miss out the midfield to counter attack

[Trumo]

If a player has had a decent season or two playing for a side that defends deep and likes to counter at pace, the player is not going to be a good fit for us. If the player's main strength is winning the ball back, he is not going to be a good fit for us. The reasons for this are that we do not defend deep, we will have the majority of possession in most of our games and counter attacking is just an addition element to our game. If your team has the ball most of the time, how much ball-winning are you going to have to do? How you use the ball will be more important.

 

Sorry to sound like a broken record here but the above is something that I feel those in charge of recruitment at the club have simply not been aware of, and it goes a long way towards explaining why so many of our signings have struggled. We are trying to change the natural game of too many players and it creates the inconsistency of form and results that we keep seeing.

[Carvalho Diablo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3602852/Niklas-Sule-Liverpool-list-Jurgen-Klopp-plans-triple-raid-Bundesliga.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

 

Linked with Niklas Sule of Hoffenheim

Far too ponderous for my liking.

[Russ Atmosphere]

Telegraph

 

Liverpool transfer news: Jurgen Klopp identifies Leicester City's Ben Chilwell as priority summer signing

 

John Percy

21 MAY 2016 • 10:30PM

 

Liverpool are ready to open talks with Leicester over a deal for Ben Chilwell this week, as Martin Skrtel heads for the Anfield exit.

 

Chilwell has been identified as a priority signing in Jurgen Klopp’s summer revamp and negotiations are expected to start within the next few days.

 

Liverpool are keen to sign the England U21 international ahead of Premier League rivals Arsenal and will have to pay a significant fee for a player seen as one of England’s brightest young talents.

 

The 19-year-old left-back has only made three appearances for the champions but Leicester have already rejected two offers from Arsenal over the past 12 months. The last offer came in January, believed to be an initial £5 million plus £2 million in add-ons, so Liverpool will have to be prepared to beat that.

 

Chilwell has been offered a new deal worth around £18,000 a week by Leicester but the Midlanders are aware of growing interest and a sale appears inevitable.

 

Liverpool are quietly confident of closing a deal and Alberto Moreno’s dismal performance in Wednesday’s Europa League Final has only heightened the need to strengthen in that position.

 

Klopp has been aware of Chilwell for some time, receiving a recommendation from Huddersfield Town manager David Wagner after the defender’s loan spell at the John Smith’s Stadium this season.

 

Chilwell is currently away with Gareth Southgate’s England U21s for the tournament in Toulon, impressing in Thursday’s 1-0 win over Portugal.

 

Skrtel, meanwhile, will become one of the first high-profile casualties of Liverpool’s summer shake-up by ending his eight-year association with Liverpool.

 

The Slovakia international has informed Klopp that he is ready to leave Anfield and is considering an offer from Turkish club Besiktas.

 

Skrtel, 31, has struggled for regular opportunities this year and told friends this week that he has accepted his departure is inevitable.

 

His agent, Mithat Halis, confirmed: “Skrtel is considering a move to Turkey and he is open to the option of playing here.

 

“Fenerbahce made an offer last season, Besiktas want Skrtel and make no secret of this. Turkish sides have been trying to sign him for five seasons but this summer he could make the move.”

 

Liverpool are also closing in on the signing of Mainz goalkeeper Loris Karius for £4.7 million.

 

Karius, who spent time with Manchester City as a teenager, will provide competition for Belgium international Simon Mignolet.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/21/liverpool-transfer-news-jurgen-klopp-identifies-leicester-citys/

[Barrington Womble]

Fucking drinkwater. Jesus. Must be bullshit, surely we're not follow the path of failure we keep doing every year?

[Chairman Meow]

You wouldn't want Kante if thems your rules?

 

I wouldn't take any of Leicesters players.

 

There is a reason them winning the league is a shock, they've had a pretty much perfect season and they are a very effective team.

 

Doesn't mean that any of the players are guaranteed to improve us. None of them have done it consistently until this year and their playing style is completely different to how we play.

 

Also factor in that pretty much all of those players will probably never be valued at the level they are and signing from them has all the hallmarks of the kind of transfer mistake we have been making year on year for quite some time now.

[aRdja]

I wouldn't take any of Leicesters players.

 

There is a reason them winning the league is a shock, they've had a pretty much perfect season and they are a very effective team.

 

Doesn't mean that any of the players are guaranteed to improve us. None of them have done it consistently until this year and their playing style is completely different to how we play.

 

Also factor in that pretty much all of those players will probably never be valued at the level they are and signing from them has all the hallmarks of the kind of transfer mistake we have been making year on year for quite some time now.

Kante and Mahrez are quality players and would improve any team in the league.

[Evil_Ways]

Kante certainly. Mahrez had a fantastic season, but i would be very surprised to see him top that, coming here he wouldnt thats for sure. Surely we have learned our lesson when it comes to signing players from other PL clubs that comes from one good season.

[liverpoolsno9]

If a player has had a decent season or two playing for a side that defends deep and likes to counter at pace, the player is not going to be a good fit for us. If the player's main strength is winning the ball back, he is not going to be a good fit for us. The reasons for this are that we do not defend deep, we will have the majority of possession in most of our games and counter attacking is just an addition element

to our game. If your team has the ball most of the time, how much ball-winning are you going to have to do? How you use the ball will be more important.

 

Sorry to sound like a broken record here but the above is something that I feel those in charge of recruitment at the club have simply not been aware of, and it goes a long way towards explaining why so many of our signings have struggled. We are trying to change the natural game of too many players and it creates the inconsistency of form and results that we keep seeing.

 

But, surely if they sit deep, they're under pressure from the opposition more. Drinkwater is there to break the play up. Which he does. Well. Utterly bizarre to say if a players main strength is winning the ball back he's not gonna be a good fit for us, as we don't defend deep, as that's exactly what we need and it's what we've needed since Masch left. How many times have you seen teams waltz through our non existent midfield? We're crying out for that type of midfielder. I'd rather throw money at Kante but wouldn't be disappointed in Drinkwater.

[liverpoolsno9]

Kante certainly. Mahrez had a fantastic season, but i would be very surprised to see him top that, coming here he wouldnt thats for sure. Surely we have learned our lesson when it comes to signing players from other PL clubs that comes from one good season.

But, but Kante is 25 & had one good season in his career & has played most of his career outside the top flight of French football.

[Lee909]

There is a big difference in hunting the ball like Mascherano did and covering a smaller area of the pitch like Leicester do. Also we need a midfielder that can play with the ball and push forward playing aore possession game

[Jay86]

These Leicester players are still relative unknowns as in we don't know what they will be like next season or the season after. I personally wouldn't want any of the Leicester players. They need to do it at least next season just to prove to people they are for real, just like Harry Kane had to this season.

 

The chance you take with these Leicester players are that you could get Mahrez for £30m now and not have a clue if he's going to any good next season or that he just had a very long purple patch or wait until next summer and if he's kept up his level of performance then he'd cost you £50m. I think that's the approach most teams will have this summer, wait and see and maybe pay more in a years time.

[Trumo]

But, surely if they sit deep, they're under pressure from the opposition more. Drinkwater is there to break the play up. Which he does. Well. Utterly bizarre to say if a players main strength is winning the ball back he's not gonna be a good fit for us, as we don't defend deep, as that's exactly what we need and it's what we've needed since Masch left. How many times have you seen teams waltz through our non existent midfield? We're crying out for that type of midfielder. I'd rather throw money at Kante but wouldn't be disappointed in Drinkwater.

 

I'm not saying the likes of Drinkwater and Kante are only ball winners but that attribute is the main strength of both. When a team defends deep like Leicester and plays with two ball winners in midfield, they are surrendering possession and territory to their opponents but making sure their opponents find it difficult to play through them. It's achieved by making the team compact and covering less ground overall but maintaining their shape. Maintaining shape, playing on the counter and trying to win the ball back near your own territory implies that the other team have the ball most of the time and are the ones trying to make inroads. That other team is us in the vast majority of our matches. It doesn't matter whether or not we have a good team or not at the time, we are the ones expected to try and make inroads into the opposition. It's one thing trying to win the ball back but a whole different story when your side has the ball most of the time and your midfielders need to be able to use the ball well more than they need to be ball winners.

[liverpoolsno9]

There is a big difference in hunting the ball like Mascherano did and covering a smaller area of the pitch like Leicester do. Also we need a midfielder that can play with the ball and push forward playing aore possession game

It's all rumour anyway but I like him. If (big if) the report is to be believed, so does Klopp. I'm in good company!

[Trumo]

It's the same argument I've been making about Benteke. A lot people said last year that he should do well here because he's scored a lot of goals for a shit Villa team. That viewpoint is as blinkered as the transfer committee basing all their descisions on stats - the 'what' rather than the 'how' - which caused them to think Balotelli's numbers at Milan made him worth the £16m risk. Villa sat deep, played on the counter with a bit of pace and asked Benteke to run the channels and/or hold the ball up and bring teammates into play, getting the ball out wide and getting into the box for the inevitable cross. It wasn't alehouse football but it was the familiar approach of many Premier League teams who don't know how to play on the front foot. We don't and can't play that reactive way because our opponents will almost always play with more men behind the ball so Benteke doesn't have the space to do all the things that he was doing at Villa. If his strengths are negated like that, is the rest of his game good enough to make him effective in a team that dominates possession and faces deep-lying teams more often than not?

[liverpoolsno9]

That other team is us in the vast majority of our matches. It doesn't matter whether or not we have a good team or not at the time, we are the ones expected to try and make inroads into the opposition. It's one thing trying to win the ball back but a whole different story when your side has the ball most of the time and your midfielders need to be able to use the ball well more than they need to be ball winners.

That just bizarre. So your saying the likes of a Masch would be wasted in our setup? (I'm not comparing him to Drinkwater).Teams, and especially us need someone to sit in front of the back 4, win the ball, play it simple & give it to more forward thinking players, just because we play a more possession game doesn't mean we don't need that type of player, whilst playing this possession football you have to keep shape & be disciplined to stop team launching counters which we've seen all too often.

[ben48]

That just bizarre. So your saying the likes of a Masch would be wasted in our setup? (I'm not comparing him to Drinkwater).Teams, and especially us need someone to sit in front of the back 4, win the ball, play it simple & give it to more forward thinking players, just because we play a more possession game doesn't mean we don't need that type of player, whilst playing this possession football you have to keep shape & be disciplined to stop team launching counters which we've seen all too often.

We've needed that type of player since Masch left if only to cover the fullbacks,but with Beaky not knowing what to do,Kenny's very English knock it up to the big bloke,and Rodgers playing every fucker where they shouldn't be.There has'nt been a lot of hope of a settled DM.

[Jay86]

That just bizarre. So your saying the likes of a Masch would be wasted in our setup? (I'm not comparing him to Drinkwater).Teams, and especially us need someone to sit in front of the back 4, win the ball, play it simple & give it to more forward thinking players, just because we play a more possession game doesn't mean we don't need that type of player, whilst playing this possession football you have to keep shape & be disciplined to stop team launching counters which we've seen all too often.

It does actually depend on how much possession you have. Mascherano would be perfect for us, a pressing team where he would plug holes where someone else breaks the line to press. Where he's less effective is playing for Barca or Bayern teams that have so much possession they don't need to win the ball back in midfield because normally they win the ball back in the oppositions half or when they end up smashing it long and the defence has the ball and starts the attack again. That's why both these heavily possession based teams have put defensive midfielders at the back. Mascherano at Barca, Martinez and Alonso at Bayern and to some degree Blind at Man Utd.

[Crazy Dave]

It would be very Liverpool to look at the Leicester midfield and buy Drinkwater ahead of Kante. 

[Boss]

This Drinkwater rumour is clearly bollocks, it started in the Metro.

[Grinch]

Id well believe the drinkwater rumour if we were still lumbered with the potless fraud.