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Frank De Boer


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De Boer has done as poorly in Europe as Rodgers (having spent less money blah, blah...) I made the same argument when we got rid of Rafa, it's all good and well wanting to get rid of the manager but if we subscribe to the notion that anyone can do a better job we're going to end up in the same position as we are now, as we were when Rafa came to the end of his time here.

 

I don't think De Boer is a noticeable improvement on Rodgers. I'd put Villas Boas ahead of him for a start. We need someone top class, end of. Not just anybody with a famous name or someone who's 'won more stuff than Rodgers' because that doesn't narrow it down very much.

 

De Boer's done poorly in Europe but Dutch clubs do fuck all in Europe. If they get past the CL group it's a massive achievement. If they get to the quarters of the Europa League it's a huge achievement. The last time a Dutch team did anything in Europe was PSV under Hiddink 10 years ago and Ajax haven't done anything in Europe since the days of Van Gaal. Any player who does well in Holland now is sold in the summer so you're not going to build a team. 

 

De Boer would be a gamble, and i'd prefer Klopp or Ancelotti, but he'd be a step up from Rodgers. He'd have a gameplan, we'd be able to control a game, we'd be able to keep the ball a bit, he's got a name and reputation that can attract players and he wouldn't be too insecure and arrogant to not want any leaders or characters in the team or anyone who's won anything on his staff. 

 

Then again i'd take Steve McClaren tomorrow over Rodgers so it's not always the criteria for seeing who should get the job. 

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The fact is though Klopp had an absolute stinker at Dortmund the season before he left (the same group of players are now flying under a new manager) and Ancelotti was getting hammered before winning the European cup.

 

 

Klopp had a bad season in his 7th season there with an injury crisis and after selling his best player every year. Lewandowski proved to be one too many and he didn't have much money to spend to replace the players he lost and refresh the squad. Certainly not by our standards. 

 

Look at Mourinho where things go to shit in his 3rd season (Rodgers learned something from him after all, as well as deflection). Klopp's longevity at Dortmund was actually impressive and he stayed too long in the end. In reality managers these days rarely last longer than 5 or 6 years before it runs its course. If we could get 5 good years out of Klopp, like Dortmund did, then that'd be great. 

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Klopp had a bad season in his 7th season there with an injury crisis and after selling his best player every year. Lewandowski proved to be one too many and he didn't have much money to spend to replace the players he lost and refresh the squad. Certainly not by our standards. 

 

Look at Mourinho where things go to shit in his 3rd season (Rodgers learned something from him after all, as well as deflection). Klopp's longevity at Dortmund was actually impressive and he stayed too long in the end. In reality managers these days rarely last longer than 5 or 6 years before it runs its course. If we could get 5 good years out of Klopp, like Dortmund did, then that'd be great. 

Spot on. We as fans are in love with the notion that we'll take this promising young manager and watch him become a legendary elder statesman over 25 years of successful management at Liverpool. It just won't ever happen again. Could have been Rafa but we'll never know. We ruin managers the same way we ruin promising yet ultimately average players. Most of them shouldn't have been here in the first place and the ones who had a chance are in the wrong environment to succeed.

 

If we can get 3-5 good years out of the next guy then we will have done well.

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Spot on. We as fans are in love with the notion that we'll take this promising young manager and watch him become a legendary elder statesman over 25 years of successful management at Liverpool. It just won't ever happen again. Could have been Rafa but we'll never know. We ruin managers the same way we ruin promising yet ultimately average players. Most of them shouldn't have been here in the first place and the ones who had a chance are in the wrong environment to succeed.

 

If we can get 3-5 good years out of the next guy then we will have done well.

 

It's pie in the sky. Look at Guardiola. Barca's most successful manager. He was there 4 seasons. Mourinho's never lasted 4 seasons anywhere. 

 

Van Gaal will manage United for probably three seasons but he'll lay a lot of foundations for the next manager, rather than leave a mess behind him. United made that mistake giving Moyes a 6 year contract. He's shit anyway but it was naive to think the next manager would have such a long term impact.

 

Wenger's the current exception but Arsenal have been treading water for a decade and he's only got away with it due to his ability to get an annual top 4 finish and the titles already behind him.

 

The method these days is to get the right continuity in place so the next manager can carry on where the last one left off (i.e.Swansea or Southampton now on a smaller scale). Isn't that what we had in the 80s? Then it all got ripped up under Souness.

 

There's  a school of thought that you need a manager who's 40-45 now rather than 60-65, but if you go by the 5 year shelf-life these days then why exclude someone that age? Appointing Rodgers over Van Gaal will define FSG.

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