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Another US Shooting


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As part of my missus job she got an invite to a live webinar this evening with Sue Klebold the mother of Dylan (One of the Columbine shooters). I've joined it with her. Wow. Very moving. Most of it was about what behaviours to look for to prevent this kind if thing. Obviously she was very self-critical because she had zero inkling he was capable of anything like this (most parents would be the same) but has studied in depth the signs etc. She also went on about the 'other' victims of these shootings. Not just the dead or the injured but families, teachers, communities, first responders, medical workers. She said 6 firefighters in the local fire brigade committed suicide within 2 years of Columbine happening and that the fire chief had said not to seek outside mental health support, we will keep it all in house. She mentioned a young girl having spinal surgery the day of the shooting who was over from intensive care into a normal room because they needed the space for the shot students. That girl caught an infection and died. So powerful. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

As part of my missus job she got an invite to a live webinar this evening with Sue Klebold the mother of Dylan (One of the Columbine shooters). I've joined it with her. Wow. Very moving. Most of it was about what behaviours to look for to prevent this kind if thing. Obviously she was very self-critical because she had zero inkling he was capable of anything like this (most parents would be the same) but has studied in depth the signs etc. She also went on about the 'other' victims of these shootings. Not just the dead or the injured but families, teachers, communities, first responders, medical workers. She said 6 firefighters in the local fire brigade committed suicide within 2 years of Columbine happening and that the fire chief had said not to seek outside mental health support, we will keep it all in house. She mentioned a young girl having spinal surgery the day of the shooting who was over from intensive care into a normal room because they needed the space for the shot students. That girl caught an infection and died. So powerful. 

 

 

Did you chip in and ask her if he was the sort of lad who preferred lyrics to melody? 

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1 minute ago, John102 said:

Did you chip in and ask her if he was the sort of lad who preferred lyrics to melody? 

Haha. A few questions at the end and one guy has got a case with a schoolgirl who is transitioning to a fella and wants to be called Dylan. She's been obsessed with high school shootings and particularly columbine. She's also been getting bullied. He asked how to deal with it and she said she still to this day gets mail from all over saying they feel like they know Dylan, girls saying they eat his babies etc. Also she said she met a doctor from a juvenile detention centre said that the the news announced that the killers went after 'jocks' as revenge that the kids in the social area all started cheering. 

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2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Haha. A few questions at the end and one guy has got a case with a schoolgirl who is transitioning to a fella and wants to be called Dylan. She's been obsessed with high school shootings and particularly columbine. She's also been getting bullied. He asked how to deal with it and she said she still to this day gets mail from all over saying they feel like they know Dylan, girls saying they eat his babies etc. Also she said she met a doctor from a juvenile detention centre said that the the news announced that the killers went after 'jocks' as revenge that the kids in the social area all started cheering. 

If her advice wasn't to do a runner and never look back, she has failed him. 

 

 

 

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The video for this is doing the rounds on social media. Talk about fucked up!

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/02/04/video-shows-snow-shoveling-fight-that-escalated-to-murder-suicide/amp/

 

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NEWS

Dramatic video shows snow shoveling dispute that escalated to murder-suicide

By Tina Moore and Jackie Salo

February 4, 2021 | 2:58pm

Disturbing new video captured the dramatic clash between a man and his neighbors shoveling snow in Pennsylvania that escalated to a murder-suicide.

Surveillance footage showed the married couple yelling obscenities at the man before he grabs a gun and shoots them both in the middle of the street Monday morning in Plains Township.

“If you step out of here, I’ll knock your a– out,” the male neighbor could be heard saying to the shooter.

Police said Jeffrey Spaide, 47, shot dead his neighbors, James Goy, 50, and his wife, Lisa, 48, after arguing about each other shoveling snow onto each other’s property.

“I’ll make your life a living hell living here d–khead,” James could be heard shouting to which Spaide responds, “What?… F–k you, you f–king scum.”

 
 

James’ wife, who is carrying a shovel, then chimes in, “You’re the f–king scumbag. You don’t know how to talk to somebody.”

“That’s right… You’re a p—y, p—y, p—y,” her husband continued while flipping off the man.

Jeffrey Spaide James Goy Lisa Goy shooting
Jeffrey Spaide is seen approaching his neighbors, James Goy, and his wife Lisa, before shooting both dead.

Footage then shows Spaide walking down his driveway towards them to which the female neighbor responds, “Go ahead. Go ahead.”

When it becomes clear that the man is holding a gun, James yells, “Put the gun down.”

The man fires several rounds, striking the male neighbor before shooting his wife.

Footage shows James running back towards his house, while his wife falls to the ground in the middle of the street, where Spaide fires at her twice again.

 
 

“Call the cops,” James shouts before the gunman chases and shoots him again.

His wife lying on the ground then cries out, “You f–ker, you!”

While others run over to help the couple, Spaide runs out with another, larger rifle.

“You should have kept your f–king mouth [shut],” Spaide could be heard saying before shooting the woman again.

Police said Spaide then went back inside his home and used a third rifle to kill himself.

Officials are investigating the gruesome episode as a murder-suicide.

The deadly confrontation came as Winter Storm Orlena tore through the East Coast, dumping as much as 30 inches of snow in some regions.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I got sent the video earlier with no context. He shot the woman then walked over and shot her in the head execution style, if it was over recycling then fair enough but snow? Fucking lunatic country.

Yeah I got sent that too. There must have been previous between them though. No way that was a solitary incident. 

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Just now, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

Lunatic laws not lunatic people, same would have happened in the UK if there were the same access to firearms

Not lunatic people? Come off it. Even if it happened in the Uk they would still be lunatic. Dead lunatics. 

 

Have to say, thank fuck we don't have them gun laws over here. 

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9 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I tried to PM it off my phone but wouldn’t work. 
 

it’s on the link above but here it is (pretty grim - warning) 

 

 

 

Jeeeezuz.

 

If a guy is coming at you with a gun though, why would you scream "GO AHEAD" at him. Jesus christ. The guy obviously had lost the plot.

 

Grim.

 

Also not saying he deserved to die, but if you're screaming and crowing at your neighbour that you're going to make his life hell and you'll kick his fucking ass, walking about carrying invisible TVs, you come across like a big bullying cunt. Except this time the person you're intimidating snapped and fucking ended you.

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2 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez C-137 said:

 

Jeeeezuz.

 

If a guy is coming at you with a gun though, why would you scream "GO AHEAD" at him. Jesus christ. The guy obviously had lost the plot.

 

Grim.

 

Also not saying he deserved to die, but if you're screaming and crowing at your neighbour that you're going to make his life hell and you'll kick his fucking ass, walking about carrying invisible TVs, you come across like a big bullying cunt. Except this time the person you're intimidating snapped and fucking ended you.

He didn't even go and tend to his wife 

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8 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Not lunatic people? Come off it. Even if it happened in the Uk they would still be lunatic. Dead lunatics. 

 

Have to say, thank fuck we don't have them gun laws over here. 

I didn't mean that specific incident, you said 'lunatic country', I  don't believe it's any more Lunatic than the UK, it's the laws that are the problem.

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11 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez C-137 said:

 

Jeeeezuz.

 

If a guy is coming at you with a gun though, why would you scream "GO AHEAD" at him. Jesus christ. The guy obviously had lost the plot.

 

Grim.

 

Also not saying he deserved to die, but if you're screaming and crowing at your neighbour that you're going to make his life hell and you'll kick his fucking ass, walking about carrying invisible TVs, you come across like a big bullying cunt. Except this time the person you're intimidating snapped and fucking ended you.

He shot him, everyone's tough with a gun in their hand, with little no back story about them it's just total speculation.

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