Where are we all now with Brendan?

[littletedwest 2,371]

We lost three nil to west ham at home, that's the issue

 

it's not the first loss or even the tenth that's humiliating in its nature against teams we should beat.By humiliating I'm not just talking about losing but being a shambles all over the field, with no fight or guile either.

 

We've scored two goals in four league games and you could argue one of them shouldn't have stood.

 

As I've said before he is an average poker player dealt a cracking hand with suarez and Sturridge.But the next cards haven't been as good to him and now he's floundering.

[Paco 1,214]

I remain optimistic that this will be a good season.

 

19 points from the next 9 games will take us up beyond the city game and our difficult start will be over.

 

26 points from a run of fixtures that includes arsenal united everton spurs chelsea and city away will be a fantastic return and then hopefully we can maintain that 2 points per game level throughout the season. Not easy but its a gauge for getting top 4.

 

On the flipside if we end up with 8 points or something from these games then the pressure will be huge to replace him.

 

Hopefully we start to see more of the first half performance against arsenal and less of the west ham dross that was served up.

 

West Ham has clearly been a watershed because im genuinely shocked to see 80% in favour of sacking him now. The tide has turned and Rodgers is quickly running out of time to save himself. Big 2 months coming up.

[Nightcat 836]

"but if we had beaten West Ham blablabla...".

 

but we were humiliated. One more humiliation during a humiliating 2015.

[Boss 7,433]

But if we had beaten West Ham, we'd be looking at a 10/12 points start to the season - and the pitchforks would still be in the barn - so people denying that this is a hysterical, pissy, knee-jerk reaction doesn't cut it with me.

 

My pitchfork wouldn't. I don't like the man, he's played the fans for fools. I don't want a Liverpool manager that says things like getting promoted with Swansea will always be a greater achievement than winning things with us. Thats not a Liverpool manager as far as i'm concerned.

[Dr. J 813]

 

19 points from the next 9 games will take us up beyond the city game and our difficult start will be over.

 

Oh, is that all?

[JermainePennant 1,543]

My pitchfork wouldn't. I don't like the man, he's played the fans for fools. I don't want a Liverpool manager that says things like getting promoted with Swansea will always be a greater achievement than winning things with us. Thats not a Liverpool manager as far as i'm concerned.

Rodgers has never said that, you must be thinking about when he said the playoff final will always be the most important final of his career even if he went on to a cl final.The playoff final was key in his career as it allowed him to go on to bigger things, without that he wouldn't have got the chance to manage a top club when he did.

[Zak D'Indermorden 69]

I remain optimistic that this will be a good season.

 

19 points from the next 9 games will take us up beyond the city game and our difficult start will be over.

 

 

Straight in to Swansea at home, there are no easy games under this man. They are all difficult games. 52 years since West Ham at Anfield was a difficult game. 

[TheHowieLama 10,895]

I don't personally think this is a true portrait of the man to be fair.

 

[boomer39 20]

We lost three nil to west ham at home, that's the issue

 

it's not the first loss or even the tenth that's humiliating in its nature against teams we should beat.By humiliating I'm not just talking about losing but being a shambles all over the field, with no fight or guile either.

 

We've scored two goals in four league games and you could argue one of them shouldn't have stood.

 

As I've said before he is an average poker player dealt a cracking hand with suarez and Sturridge.But the next cards haven't been as good to him and now he's floundering.

how did the arse go on at home to whu??? think before you speak...

[Boss 7,433]

Rodgers has never said that, you must be thinking about when he said the playoff final will always be the most important final of his career even if he went on to a cl final.The playoff final was key in his career as it allowed him to go on to bigger things, without that he wouldn't have got the chance to manage a top club when he did.

 

He said the Swansea play off final will always be the biggest game for him, bigger than any game that wins us the title or the champions league final. That to me just shows how little he values us and also how lacking in ambition as a manager he is.

[boomer39 20]

It's not a case of 'if' he gets sacked it's a case of 'when'. Hopefully he gets sacked before he really does some serious damage to our reputation as well as our ability to get a good manager in to succeed him. 

 

Worst case scenario 10th at Christmas or thereabouts with another season written off with both Carlo and Klopp agreeing to manage other clubs. Howe, Monk and Koeman leading the race for our new manager, a Brendan Rodgers Mark 2 recruited and another season after this one written off as transition.

lets wait and see......

[Rocky Sullivan 85]

We'll be treading water with Rodgers until FSG get as far as they want with Anfield's redevelopment and we're flogged off.

[littletedwest 2,371]

They lost.They played better than we did though.

And what arsenal do doesn't bother me I'm talking about Rodgers and us.

We lost 3-1 at home to palace at the end of last season I'm not proud because Chelsea lost at the weekend to them.

 

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[jsjazz 63]

Should have gone in the summer. Two dour games settled by a wonder strike from our last remaining quality player and a referee that doesn't know the offside rule don't make up for the other failings- all documented many times, no plan, no pattern of play, players out out of position, better players overlooked for his pets, playing one up top, no solid defensive midfielder, the verbal diarrhoea etc.

I don't want to call him names- he's always stuck up for the club- but he's not good enough so shouldn't be here. And I'm fed up hearing about lots of new signings and giving them time to gel- there were only lots of new signings because the lot he bought last time were so bad or he got so little out of them! It was the same story last year.

I think a better manager would get more out of the current squad, mediocre as they are.

[fungus 616]

Most people were done with him after last season and it's cherry on top 6-1 defeat to end it, still seeing those type of displays is what is pissing people off, it's not solely a reaction to the west ham game.

[dirk grout 125]

We'll be treading water with Rodgers until FSG get as far as they want with Anfield's redevelopment and we're flogged off.

 

I really don't understand opinions like this. It sounds like you think that part of their masterplan is to deliberately make the team shit so they can then sell us? Or are you suggesting that theyre sticking with rodgers cos hes cheap? How would sacking rodgers and replacing him with klopp prevent them from selling us when the stadium is finished?

[mars 221]

Should have gone in the summer. Two dour games settled by a wonder strike from our last remaining quality player and a referee that doesn't know the offside rule don't make up for the other failings- all documented many times, no plan, no pattern of play, players out out of position, better players overlooked for his pets, playing one up top, no solid defensive midfielder, the verbal diarrhoea etc.

I don't want to call him names- he's always stuck up for the club- but he's not good enough so shouldn't be here. And I'm fed up hearing about lots of new signings and giving them time to gel- there were only lots of new signings because the lot he bought last time were so bad or he got so little out of them! It was the same story last year.

I think a better manager would get more out of the current squad, mediocre as they are.

Yep. In schools it is said that if one or two teachers get poor results then it is their fault; if most teachers get poor results then it is the head's fault - we have too many players that are inconsistent, or consistently poor, and Rodgers has to take responsibility for that.

 

I can accept paying over the odds for a player if that player then delivers on the pitch, but with too many expensive players we simply haven't seen performances that justify the price. Are these players one season wonders or is the manager failing to get the best from them?

 

If there is a better manager available, which I accept is a difficult judgement to make, then I have no problem with Rodgers going. I believe Klopp is a better manager and he will be available.

 

My judgement is clouded by the fact that I just don't like Rodgers. I have liked previous managers despite their failings (OK, not Hodgson) but it has reached the point with Rodgers where I cannot bear to watch post match interviews regardless of results.

[Jairzinho 23,120]

I really don't understand opinions like this. It sounds like you think that part of their masterplan is to deliberately make the team shit so they can then sell us? Or are you suggesting that theyre sticking with rodgers cos hes cheap? How would sacking rodgers and replacing him with klopp prevent them from selling us when the stadium is finished?

 

Klopp, presumably, as a manager with far more pedigree than Rodgers, would demand far more of the owners. Getting the job wouldn't be his greatest ever footballing achievement. Rodgers knows that his next job will be at a mid table Premier League club (yeah, yeah, very funny), and FSG know that as well.

[Rocky Sullivan 85]

I really don't understand opinions like this. It sounds like you think that part of their masterplan is to deliberately make the team shit so they can then sell us? Or are you suggesting that theyre sticking with rodgers cos hes cheap? How would sacking rodgers and replacing him with klopp prevent them from selling us when the stadium is finished?

Not make us shit but like I said treading water. Being good enough to hover around or just below the champions league places seems good enough to them. And why spunk a load of money on paying off a manager and his new back-room staf

Klopp, presumably, as a manager with far more pedigree than Rodgers, would demand far more of the owners. Getting the job wouldn't be his greatest ever footballing achievement. Rodgers knows that his next job will be at a mid table Premier League club (yeah, yeah, very funny), and FSG know that as well.

Yeah Jairzinho pretty much answered that.

[MegadriveMan 816]

Klopp, presumably, as a manager with far more pedigree than Rodgers, would demand far more of the owners. Getting the job wouldn't be his greatest ever footballing achievement. Rodgers knows that his next job will be at a mid table Premier League club (yeah, yeah, very funny), and FSG know that as well.

 

For me the key thing is that Klopp would attract much better players. 

 

It would be a major show of intent to get back to the very top if we hired him.

[dirk grout 125]

Not make us shit but like I said treading water. Being good enough to hover around or just below the champions league places seems good enough to them. And why spunk a load of money on paying off a manager and his new back-room staf

Yeah Jairzinho pretty much answered that.

 

They just sacked all his staff. Why not just keep hodgson or kenny? They spent fortunes paying them off.

[dirk grout 125]

Klopp, presumably, as a manager with far more pedigree than Rodgers, would demand far more of the owners. Getting the job wouldn't be his greatest ever footballing achievement. Rodgers knows that his next job will be at a mid table Premier League club (yeah, yeah, very funny), and FSG know that as well.

 

Brendan has spent fortunes on players. Klopp has never had a transfer or wage budget so big.

[stringvest 12,836]

Hardly anyone in the history of football has had as much to spend as Brendan.

[Rocky Sullivan 85]

They just sacked all his staff. Why not just keep hodgson or kenny? They spent fortunes paying them off.

Sorry that first paragraph was supposed to have been binned and my reply was supposed to just be the Jairzinho quote.

Oh and I would answer your question but you and I would be the only ones who would understand it... and that includes your teacher.

[Hades 3,603]

We are rudderless in every sense. The owners, the manager and the players. But all of them will profit handsomely through failure, and the paying supporters are the ones picking up the tab. They're also the only ones who give much of a fuck, it would appear.

Fantastic.