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There is a pub on Lark Lane called Rhubarb that sells breakfasts all day as well as brunch and burgers etc. it makes a small fortune on food sales.
I bet it does.Mark-up on a tea or coffee is bigger than a pint as well.

 

Sell drugs behind the bar and have a Whorehouse upstairs. You may create a den on pure inequity but you'll be quids in.
And a mini casino in the back.

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Look at some successful pubs (not in your chosen area) and ask to speak to the Landlord/owner see how they went about it and think about your market.  Big thing now is variety and being different, 3 or 4 cask ales with some good foreign lagers on draft along with a good selection of bottles is good.  That'll keep the pisscans out who won't want to pay for a pint of Budvar (or whatever). 

 

Teas and coffee (get a decent machine - expensive but with good resale value) are great for the daytime and bringing women in - sell some cake with that equals very good profit margins.

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Place near me opened up selling craft beer. Well, beer from independent breweries anyway. It's tiny but it turned out that people were willing to pay for quality and the clientele were more mature so there has never been a single problem in the place. They do decent food too, but how they cook in the kitchen they have I'll never work out!

 

After 18 months they've just bought, renovated and opened a huge pub which will be more foodie and have live music but also allows for more craft beer.

 

Sell good beer and decent food. That seems to be the crux of it.

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Just an excuse squeeze this in. A local alchy used run one in leigh.Think he drank all the profits and lost it in end.One story after he died was that he was watching leigh play rugby and an away fan asked him where best boozer in leigh was.

his response was "thas looking at im "

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I've also got a mate who's brother has opened up a craft beer place in Portsmouth. It's in what was a shop, so they aren't tied, get different beers in every week and are making a fortune. I'll try and get you some more details.

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Number 1 priority is good ale. Why do people go to wethies? Yes it's cheap but I think I've only ever had one bad pint from a one and they couldn't have changed it faster for me.

 

The number of arguments I've had with other pubs over awful lager, mainstream lager, because their maintenance wasn't up the scratch is staggering.

 

Good ale. Prices as reasonable as you can get them. Clean pub Clean toilets. Dickheads out.

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Number 1 priority is good ale. Why do people go to wethies? Yes it's cheap but I think I've only ever had one bad pint from a one and they couldn't have changed it faster for me.

 

The number of arguments I've had with other pubs over awful lager, mainstream lager, because their maintenance wasn't up the scratch is staggering.

 

Good ale. Prices as reasonable as you can get them. Clean pub Clean toilets. Dickheads out.

 

Wethies? Dickheads out? Place would be empty. I suppose I can only go by the one in Belfast. Maybe Liverpool Wetherspoons are different.

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Wethies? Dickheads out? Place would be empty. I suppose I can only go by the one in Belfast. Maybe Liverpool Wetherspoons are different.

My point is that if you take the elements that make spoons so successful; good ale and reasonable (as much as you can with their buying power) keep it clean etc AND keep the dickheads out you'll have a long lasting successful pub that people will go out of their way to go to.

 

I actually think people want to drink at places other that wethies but there's no real alternatives. Aside from the one by mine there's a grotty drug dealer filled one with carling or carling cider or a pub which charges ludicrous prices for its standard drinks.

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My point is that if you take the elements that make spoons so successful; good ale and reasonable (as much as you can with their buying power) keep it clean etc AND keep the dickheads out you'll have a long lasting successful pub that people will go out of their way to go to.

 

I actually think people want to drink at places other that wethies but there's no real alternatives. Aside from the one by mine there's a grotty drug dealer filled one with carling or carling cider or a pub which charges ludicrous prices for its standard drinks.

 

Ah OK, got you now.

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Right then, so far we've got :

 

A rural(ish) location

Good selection of quality ale

Good food

No dickheads or dealers

No f**tball on telly

Friendly atmosphere

Good service

Saucy barmaids

 

Piece of piss this. TLW Business Advisory Service. Is it really as simple as knowing what we like and don't like in a boozer?

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Yeah pretty much. It's about knowing the demands of your market GD. If all of those options you've listed tick the boxes of what people want from a pub, that's half the battle won.

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There's a decent one near me called the Norfolk Arms, used to be a bit of a hole and closed. They've reopened it selling Czech lagers, lots of craft beers and decent food. Also do music and a beer festival.

 

http://www.thenorfolkarms.co.uk

Used to drive past that every other week to play at Brabyns, but never been in.

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I've also got a mate who's brother has opened up a craft beer place in Portsmouth. It's in what was a shop, so they aren't tied, get different beers in every week and are making a fortune. I'll try and get you some more details.

Which one?!

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So you can watch all the premier league football you want providing you buy it from Sky's foreign channels but not if it is sky UK?

That's my understanding. It is based on free trade within the EU.

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Right then, so far we've got :

 

A rural(ish) location

Good selection of quality ale

Good food

No dickheads or dealers

No f**tball on telly

Friendly atmosphere

Good service

Saucy barmaids

 

Piece of piss this. TLW Business Advisory Service. Is it really as simple as knowing what we like and don't like in a boozer?

 

Dyson airblade taps are a must.

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I'm currently looking at opening a hybrid bar/shop with a friend.

 

About 4/5 stools, maybe a table or two outside, a couple of ever changing kegs, cured meats and lots of off licence stock; good quality independent ales, ciders etc. Overheads being smaller is key for me.

 

Has anyone been to Friends of Ham in Leeds, or Thomas Street in Manchester? Something like that is a fantastic idea, not sure about overheads though.

 

I think in the right neighbourhood this type of model is a goer.

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I'm currently looking at opening a hybrid bar/shop with a friend.

 

About 4/5 stools, maybe a table or two outside, a couple of ever changing kegs, cured meats and lots of off licence stock; good quality independent ales, ciders etc. Overheads being smaller is key for me.

 

Has anyone been to Friends of Ham in Leeds, or Thomas Street in Manchester? Something like that is a fantastic idea, not sure about overheads though.

 

I think in the right neighbourhood this type of model is a goer.

Once 3 or 4 pop up mate thats that market saturated..

If it was me I would decide between a spit and sawdust real alehouse for blokes with no telly or fruities or a cool food and coffee place that happens to sell great continental and local beers. Limited choice but always top quality.

Sell one bad pint to a CAMRA member and the whole country will know about it.

I would go for food and coffee. Thats where the money is.

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Once 3 or 4 pop up mate thats that market saturated..

If it was me I would decide between a spit and sawdust real alehouse for blokes with no telly or fruities or a cool food and coffee place that happens to sell great continental and local beers. Limited choice but always top quality.

Sell one bad pint to a CAMRA member and the whole country will know about it.

I would go for food and coffee. Thats where the money is.

Yeah, that's the run of it.

 

Make a go and others will pop up, or the supermarkets will widen their stock and undercut you.

 

My wife runs a popular, busy, well reviewed restaurant, has done for two years....still not made a penny!

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