Labour Leadership Contest

[Red Phoenix]

Corbyn should leave Labour and set up a new party.

 

Have been thinking the same thing recently. I read Seumas Milne talking about how things have been changed either way not long ago and I didn't really resonate with what he was saying, but I think I get it more now. This is actually a huge change taking place, and the other Labour leader contenders and media are almost working like a tag team to ensure that it carries on doing so.

 

They might be facing the reality about now, or maybe they were quick to see it and already understand, that even if Corbyn loses, there's a momentum here that's not going to be stopped anywhere near as easily.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

The constant criticism of Corbyn is very reminiscent of the Scottish independence referendum i.e.

"Don't vote for this it's bad!"

"Ok then what do you have to offer?"

"Erm... Well... things staying the same? Rich get richer and increase the disparity between them and the poor "

"Great you've really convinced me"

 

I was thinking the same. Also, like with the Scottish referendum, each scare story seems to be pushing votes the other way, doing the opposite of what it was intended. There's a growing sense that many people aren't just dissatisfied with the politicians they've been getting, but the media that have failed to scrutinise them on behalf of the public. The traditional media laying into Corbyn is becoming a validation of his outsider status, and increases the hope that were he elected, he may do things differently. If he wins, I don't think he'll be quite the lame duck some have assumed.

[Jairzinho]

Mirror - Burnham

Guardian - Cooper

 

It is quite encouraging, regardless what happens from this point on, that Corbyn is currently 2/7 to win the leadership election, and polling at over 50% of the vote purely through social media and him travelling around the country speaking to people. The entire mainstream media has been utterly poisonous towards him (especially the supposed "left wing" papers) and yet still he is comfortably the most popular choice. As others have mentioned, it's actually solidifying his support the more Blairites attempt to shoot him down.

 

Read the Guardian comments section. I know it's not an entirely accurate snapshot of the country by any means, but it has changed dramatically over the last month or two. It is now filled almost completely with people attacking the paper for attacking Corbyn, and Tory trolls. The paper is pushing Cooper and people just simply aren't having it.

[Section_31]

I don't think Burnham is Blair. I think he's a decent bloke. I just don't think he'd stand a chance. I don't think Corbyn stands a chance either with Scotland lost and pending some kind of social revolution. but fuck it who cares. I think copper is the most likely to win an election because she's got the spiel. The narrative of a reasonably slick woman up against an intellectual lightweight like Osborne or a buffoon like Boris could also pay dividends.

[Hooch]

Mirror - Burnham

Guardian - Cooper

 

It is quite encouraging, regardless what happens from this point on, that Corbyn is currently 2/7 to win the leadership election, and polling at over 50% of the vote purely through social media and him travelling around the country speaking to people. The entire mainstream media has been utterly poisonous towards him (especially the supposed "left wing" papers) and yet still he is comfortably the most popular choice. As others have mentioned, it's actually solidifying his support the more Blairites attempt to shoot him down.

 

Read the Guardian comments section. I know it's not an entirely accurate snapshot of the country by any means, but it has changed dramatically over the last month or two. It is now filled almost completely with people attacking the paper for attacking Corbyn, and Tory trolls. The paper is pushing Cooper and people just simply aren't having it.

Been seeing this a lot too and I hope you are right.

It's exciting to think a majority of people (relative to the leadership vote) have woken up and seen the media for what it is, and won't be swayed by them.

 

To quote Kevin Keegan, I will love it if we beat them. Love it.

[lifetime fan]

*NEWSFLASH*

 

Mirror backs Burnham.

Hadn't they announced that weeks ago?

[Anny Road]

I think the whole thing is disgusting and I will never vote Labour again regardless who wins. Even if it is Corbyn. He will be surrounded by twats.

[Gnasher]

I don't see why the likes of Corbyn should leave the Labour Party, if Kendall and co don't like it let them fuck off.

[VladimirIlyich]

I don't see why the likes of Corbyn should leave the Labour Party, if Kendall and co don't like it let them fuck off.

No empty seats left on the Tory benches,yet.

[Chairman Meow]

I signed up to vote in it, Corbyn is the first politician in my voting lifetime who has been anywhere near a chance of representing my views and potentially being in a position of power to do so.

 

The only one of the candidates I've received an email from is Corbyn and I've had nobody checking me out to see if I am too left wing for them, unless if they are checking via constituent MPs Alan Campbell is just allowing through anyone who has ever had contact with him.

 

It's a very weird concept "we have this guy who people seem to actually like and people are signing up because they want him to represent them, lets see if we can stop them". 

 

Democracy in action.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H8lFzJkRk

 

She's so fucking shit I almost feel sorry for her.

 

She's so typical of the majority of modern politicians, lots of words but says nothing.

 

See the likes of Mark Steel and Ken Loach have been denied a chance to vote because they do not support Labours core values.

 

These stinking liberal minded socialist types, can't be having any of this nonsense.

[Anny Road]

Watched 2 mins of that and had to turn it off. These people have no business being in the Labour party.

This election is like choosing your favorite member of the HR department.  Pointless.

They should all fuck off if JC wins and lets unite the working class.

[Sut]

I love the sense of outrage. "We usurped this party, how dare the people it was set up to represent try to have any say in what we do and what we stand for?"

[Anubis]

The Guardian's Endorsement of Cooper is an amusing read. 80% of it is about Corbyn and how he's energised the race, and 20% is them recommending Cooper and saying she can't waste this energy Corbyn has built up. Er.....

 

There is also a political sketch of Cooper in The Telegraph based on her Manchester speech on Friday. At one point it refers to Cooper banging on about needing policies to make things better, when one listener asked her what they were because he hadn't heard one all morning.

[Anny Road]

To be honest I partly blame the working class for being fucking idots.

Yes we dont work down the pit or at the docks anymore but we are still on shit wages and could not afford a month off work.

Cheap credit and increased debt has made the working class feel affluent. I can't be working class I own my own home and have an A3.

 

You owe the ban 150k. There is servitude.

 

I cannot vote socialist he will take away my hard earned standard of living... You mean debt

[Dr Nowt]

Just received the following:

 

"It's Jeremy Corbyn, seeking your vote for Leader. Can I ask who you're backing? Text JC for me, AB for Andy, YC for Yvette or LK for Liz. Reply STOP to opt out."

 

Have texted back asking if he fancies a pint of mild and a chat over a game of dominoes.

 

Hopefully he's not just cockteasing.

[Section_31]

JC = Jesus Christ?

[Anubis]

JC = Jesus Christ?

 

[Hooch]

Are janmolby or xerxes around?

 

Would love to hear their reasoning for voting Kendall in the thread poll.

[Spy Bee]

I think we will see a gradual shift in politics where the left does get a voice. I think Plaid will get a lot more votes in Wales, then with left wing parties getting influence in Scotland and Wales, how long until someone starts a North of England Party? That would immediately get traction if done well, and so it will continue. They won't be able to shit on the working class forever and get away with it. It's amazing it's got this far, but the pip will squeak eventually.

[Spy Bee]

Stories of people being refused membership of the Labour Party due to supporting a left wing party at the last election are a bit mental aren't they http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/wrexham-woman-shocked-after-labour-9858142

[Skidfingers McGonical]

I've still heard nothing since Tuesday.

[Anubis]

We are the Corb. Resistance is futile.

 

No sniggering at the back.

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/shadow-cabinet-mps-form-the-resistance-group-in-anticipation-of-corbyn-win-a2633476.html

 

 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Chuck, the man who bottled going in the leadership is starting a resistance group?

 

Fucking gobshites the lot of them.

[Bobby Hundreds]

I just got a text message saying its Jeremy corbyn seeking your vote who are you voting for, text JC for me AB for Andy burnhan and so on and so forth.

[Dr Nowt]

I just got a text message saying its Jeremy corbyn seeking your vote who are you voting for, text JC for me AB for Andy burnhan and so on and so forth.

 

Text back "But how do I know it's you, Jeremy?"  Bet you get nothing in reply. 

 

I smell a rat.  Reply JC and you get your balls cut off.