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Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

He scored one and played a great ball for Mane in the build up for the first. He is having to drop deep at the moment to help the build up because the midfield isn’t quite working, and he is less effective because of it as we saw from the first half. He’s great for us though. 

Interesting thing is that even though he drops very deep at times,with Shaqiri in the team we still tend to have three attackers ahead of him. Using Shaq allows Bobby more time and space.

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Klopp needs to start pressing from the front and playing him up top again soon as. Just don’t think he’s got the vision to play deep and it’s costing us.

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1 minute ago, Sugar Ape said:

Klopp needs to start pressing from the front and playing him up top again soon as. Just don’t think he’s got the vision to play deep and it’s costing us.

Got to agree. 

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Not sure moving position is going to suddenly make him pass to his team mates again. Is it time to be worried about that horrific eye injury. Momo Sissoko was never the same after his

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7 minutes ago, Mr pink said:

Not sure moving position is going to suddenly make him pass to his team mates again. Is it time to be worried about that horrific eye injury. Momo Sissoko was never the same after his

Momo was out for months. Bobby was out for about three days. Not sure you’re comparing like with like there. 

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6 hours ago, El Rojo said:

Momo was out for months. Bobby was out for about three days. Not sure you’re comparing like with like there. 

Firmino's passing is pretty similar to momos right now

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20 hours ago, Mr pink said:

Not sure moving position is going to suddenly make him pass to his team mates again. Is it time to be worried about that horrific eye injury. Momo Sissoko was never the same after his

Christ on a bike you waffle some shite.

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20 hours ago, Mr pink said:

Not sure moving position is going to suddenly make him pass to his team mates again. Is it time to be worried about that horrific eye injury. Momo Sissoko was never the same after his

Fucking hell!

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2 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

There could be some truth in what he says though. Just look at the protective eye wear he has to have on while he plays...

Could it be the floodlight glare from his teeth?

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He is probably just knackered after last seasons efforts, losing the CL final and having the world cup too. I read somewhere that he's played a massive amount of games compared to his peers. It is possible it has just taken its toll. Regardless, he needs to be back in the CF spot through the middle. Not doing anyone any good playing him elsewhere.

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I'd like to see him rested tomorrow and part of all of the game at the weekend. Then see him play in the same 4-3-3 as last season against Napoli. If there's a game I want to see us emulate last years style its the game on Tuesday.

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Firmino has 3 goals in the league this year.  By the way, all of his goals have come away from home.

 

The main strikers for Arsenal, Man City, Spurs, Bournemouth, Brighton, Fulham, Everton, Leicester, Man United, West Ham, Southampton, all have more goals than the main striker for Liverpool.

 

It’s not often that a main striker for a top team does this.  At the current rate, he’s on course for an 8 goal season in the league.

 

I look around Europe and the top teams have a top striker doing numbers right now, yet again, as top teams do year on year.

 

Dortmund – Alcacer 10 goals

Bayern – Lewandowski 7 goals

Arsenal – Aubemayang 10 goals

City – Aguero 8 goals

Spurs – Kane 8 goals

United – Lukaku 5 goals

Barca – Messi 9 goals

Madrid  - Benzema 5 goals

Sevilla – Andre Silva 8 goals

Juventus – Ronaldo 10 goals

Inter – Icardi 8 goals

Napoli – Milik 5 goals

Milan – Higuain 5 goals

PSG – Cavani 9 goals

 

And yes, there are other players in those teams still scoring goals, more than the number 9 in some cases, but the baseline for the number 9 remains high, regardless if Neymar, or MBappe, or Suarez, or Sterling, or Reus, or Insigne, or Mertens, or Dembele, or Coutinho, or Hazard, or Martial, or Lacazette, or Pedro, or Sane, etc are scoring goals as well, which they are.

 

 

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I'd have more faith in Firmino turning things around than Salah.

 

A few goals aside, Salah's been generally awful all season. Never seems to win a one-on-one or a physical battle any more. Could be down to a variety of reasons. He quite rightly has built up a lot of credit, but he pissed me off for the first time with his slow walk on Sunday when he was subbed. 

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51 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

I'd have more faith in Firmino turning things around than Salah.

 

A few goals aside, Salah's been generally awful all season. Never seems to win a one-on-one or a physical battle any more. Could be down to a variety of reasons. He quite rightly has built up a lot of credit, but he pissed me off for the first time with his slow walk on Sunday when he was subbed. 

 

I think he's labouring next to Firmino, and he's not getting midfielders coming through to help him make space.  I'd be pissed off too. 

 

That said, I wish he'd stop trying to recreate the Roma goal every time he gets the ball on the edge of the area.  Every defender knows what he's trying to do, bit like Robben, albeit Robben takes a fraction less time to hit the ball. 

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Firmino hasn't been playing at number nine, so I don't see much value in comparing him to other number nines around the continent.

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Don't have a problem with him not scoring as that has never been what he is about. His passing though at the moment is diabolical, many of his passes aren't even closing to finding a team mate. 

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