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Jonathan Pie is the most sophisticated expression of British political confusion. Everything he says is right and wrong at the same time. Which may mean he's some kind of genius. But I suspect he's a right-winger / English nationalist consciously or unconsciously masquerading as a left-winger / liberal cosmopolitan...

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Just now, Mudface said:

Old school leftie, definitely. He's always been supportive of Corbyn and his video after Trump won made it explicit where his loyalties are.

I know where he situates himself on the political spectrum. I think he's mistaken / deluded / dishonest to a lesser or greater extent.

 

I had the same reaction to his Twitter feminist persona...

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The left has changed. It always had a concern for its fellow man. It conveniently ignored it’s Stalinist abominations and clung to its humanitarian roots of all for one.

 

I cannot see an outlet for progressive left thinking in this world where Trump is Pres and Putin is in office.

 

I wish for an opportunity for left wing inspiration to rise but at the minute not a fucking chance. Corbyn needs to disappear. He is part of the problem.

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35 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Old school leftie, definitely. He's always been supportive of Corbyn and his video after Trump won made it explicit where his loyalties are.

Yes. I'd say he has left wing economic views, but finds much of contemporary left wing social views to be a heap of shite.

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13 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Yes. I'd say he has left wing economic views, but finds much of contemporary left wing social views to be a heap of shite.

Yep, he has no truck whatsoever with identity politics. Be interesting if Tom Walker had the same views as his character.

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11 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Yep, he has no truck whatsoever with identity politics. Be interesting if Tom Walker had the same views as his character.

Every interview suggests that Jonathan Pie is essentially just a shouty version of Tom Walker.

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6 hours ago, F*ck Off said:

People clinging to an online petition that is open to abuse via multiple votes, bots etc, that's pretty pathetic. Desperation, that's what it looks like. 

 

 

This is completely wrong as in the opposite  of the truth... where did you get it from?

The fucking Mail?

 

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It's a symbolic gesture. The government has tried to pretend for three years that it is doing the will of the people. Here is a timely reminder that there are millions of people whose will is being ignored.

 

EDIT: And also, given it's already more than a million more people than voted Lib Dem in 2017, a reminder that the ultra-remainer vote is not limited to Lib Dem voters.

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5 minutes ago, Boss said:

Any sad bastard that's signed it has wasted their time. It's worth precisely zero.

Doesn't Parliament now have to debate something that 48 hours ago was unmentionable? 

Doesn't the claim that May is speaking for "the people" now lie in ruins?

 

Nobody's forcing you to sign it. You can choose to wrap yourself up in vapid cynicism all you like, but you are flat wrong about the three and a half million people who choose to do something. 

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8 minutes ago, Boss said:

Any sad bastard that's signed it has wasted their time. It's worth precisely zero.

Mate, I do feel sorry for you

It must be terrible

Negged 

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13 minutes ago, Boss said:

Any sad bastard that's signed it has wasted their time. It's worth precisely zero.

You been sucking jeremies jeb end? 

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If you wanted to make a statement why don't you galvanise the people that want to stop Brexit and march on Parliament? That'd make a statement. Not sitting behind your keyboard with Cheetoo covered fingers signing a petition. 

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Like the big fucking march on Saturday?

 

Good plan.  Turns out people can do more than one thing. 

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This petition kind of puts paid to the idea that people ‘just want to get on with it’ or they are sick of it. 

 

JHB has been caught out saying it can be gamed. 

 

Theresa May will go down in history as either a genius for stymieing Brexit or a villain for facilitating it despite knowing it was a disaster.  

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1 minute ago, Pidge said:

Like the big fucking march on Saturday?

 

Good plan.  Turns out people can do more than one thing. 

Well go to it then instead of cry arsing about it.

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If there was an election tomorrow Britain would vote for the Tories.

 

If there was a second referendum tomorrow the people would again vote leave or at least 16m or 17m of them would.

 

What a fucked up country.

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4 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

 

Theresa May will go down in history as either a genius for stymieing Brexit or a villain for facilitating it despite knowing it was a disaster.  

Lmfao

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No one's crying at all, you moaning tit.  The petition picked up in direct reaction to the PM's speech, it's a timely statement (and there really aren't many ways to make our voices heard when we're this close to the wire) that she was talking bollocks.

 

The march was happening anyway. 

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1 hour ago, Josef Svejk said:

I know where he situates himself on the political spectrum. I think he's mistaken / deluded / dishonest to a lesser or greater extent.

 

I had the same reaction to his Twitter feminist persona...

Pie Is a fictitious character. 

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18 minutes ago, Boss said:

If you wanted to make a statement why don't you galvanise the people that want to stop Brexit and march on Parliament? That'd make a statement. Not sitting behind your keyboard with Cheetoo covered fingers signing a petition. 

You'd still be sat at home sniping about it. 

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