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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


Anny Road
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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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19 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Do you even read the links you're posting?

 

Research shows a very small impact of overall immigration on employment and unemployment of UK-born workers

 

Research suggests that immigration has small impacts on average wages of UK workers

A short-term dip in wages for the lowest paid of less than 5% (balanced by increases in wages elsewhere  - how the UK Government uses tax and benefits to rebalance these effects is entirely a matter for the UK Government). Imagine being stupid enough to think that doing permanent damage to the economy and to workers' rights is going to be less harmful than that.

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31 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Do you even read the links you're posting?

 

Research shows a very small impact of overall immigration on employment and unemployment of UK-born workers

 

Research suggests that immigration has small impacts on average wages of UK workers

Very selective quoting there stronts, well done. Not that I'm surprised you neglected the quotes on low paid workers.

 

The report is quite clear, if you are a big earner you gain if you are poor (yes remember them types) or on low income you lose.

 

Read it again.

 

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-labour-market-effects-of-immigration/

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27 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

A short-term dip in wages for the lowest paid of less than 5% (balanced by increases in wages elsewhere  - how the UK Government uses tax and benefits to rebalance these effects is entirely a matter for the UK Government). Imagine being stupid enough to think that doing permanent damage to the economy and to workers' rights is going to be less harmful than that.

 You do  understand that  a dip in wages of a low paid worker  would be a sizeable blow to a ordinary man/women don't you? Yet you dismiss it as next to nothing, you really are just a Tory lite.

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59 minutes ago, TK421 said:

I'm with Terry, I want to give his views a chance.  No deal Brexit, please.  Bring it on.  

Of course if Terry hadn't suffered 20 years of uk and EU superslags creating a low skilled low paid cesspit of deprivation he might not have felt the need to raise his fingers to the powers that be.

 

http://www.poverty.ac.uk/report-europe-low-pay/underclass-low-wage-service-jobs-europe

 

I blame the above on Terry or a bricklayer from Bradford;  It makes life easy.

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2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Of course if Terry hadn't suffered 20 years of uk and EU superslags creating a low skilled low paid cesspit of deprivation he might not have felt the need to raise his fingers to the powers that be.

 

http://www.poverty.ac.uk/report-europe-low-pay/underclass-low-wage-service-jobs-europe

 

I blame the above on Terry or a bricklayer from Bradford;  It makes life easy.

Ah right, it must be entirely the EU's fault.  No deal utopia it is, then. 

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1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

A short-term dip in wages for the lowest paid of less than 5% (balanced by increases in wages elsewhere  - how the UK Government uses tax and benefits to rebalance these effects is entirely a matter for the UK Government). Imagine being stupid enough to think that doing permanent damage to the economy and to workers' rights is going to be less harmful than that.

Reposted to give Gnasher a chance to read it through to the end.

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8 minutes ago, Anny Road said:

The very idea that free movement was some egalitarian social measure is laughable. A flexible labour market serves only one master.

Do you think that no working class people have benefited?

 

Come on. You're better than this. Gnasher deals in strawmen and  black and white, nuance-free false dichotomies. That's because he's thick. You're not. 

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Terry Fuckwit, your average Quitter, is actually a retired home owner and staunch Tory who#s flirted with Ukip in the past.

Too many immigrants in his leafy part of Bucks and he doesn't trust the Germans. His dad was in the War. He supports the Death penalty and hates that Socialist Corbyn and that awful woman Abbot

 

 

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4 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Terry Fuckwit, your average Quitter, is actually a retired home owner and staunch Tory who#s flirted with Ukip in the past.

Too many immigrants in his leafy part of Bucks and he doesn't trust the Germans. His dad was in the War. He supports the Death penalty and hates that Socialist Corbyn and that awful woman Abbot

 

 

You'd be right if most labour heartlands hadn't voted out so unfortunately for you you're wrong. 

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1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Shocking misrepresentation.  Honestly, I've never seen anything like it. 

 

I need to get over the shock by lying on a massive pile of Euros and wanking over nudey pics of Milton Friedman.

http://www.poverty.ac.uk/report-europe-low-pay/underclass-low-wage-service-jobs-europe

 

Anything of note to say about the above angry? I realise poor people are not your bag but take a wild stab.

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25 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Reposted to give Gnasher a chance to read it through to the end.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-labour-market-effects-of-immigration/

 

I've read it and posted on it before. You're the one who seems content that the report shows the poor once again suffer.  You and Rico; two peas in a pod.

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3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

http://www.poverty.ac.uk/report-europe-low-pay/underclass-low-wage-service-jobs-europe

 

Anything of note to say about the above angry? I realise poor people are not your bag but take a wild stab.

You really don't read the links you post, do you? I'll summarise it for you: low-pay is a widespread problem and the European Commission commissioned a report into how bad it is and what can be done about it. Nothing in that link suggests the EU are the bad guys; quite the reverse.

 

Any chance of you letting us know how you plan to tackle poverty by shrinking the economy and reducing workers' rights?

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