Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[ZonkoVille77]

7 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

Has anyone thought that the hard border issue could be solved by joining Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland together as one country. Would save a lot of nonsense, surely?

 

Ah the age old conundrum....

Britain would love to get rid because it costs them a fortune to run. Ireland couldn't afford to take it on (possibly could with EU aid).

Most in the south don't really give a shite about the North. Likewise, most in the UK don't give a shite about the North.

The only ones who really care are the hardliners on both sides.

 

It's kind of funny that the DUP and their kind want to cling on so passionately to a country that doesn't give a fuck about them unless it suits them. The Unionist and Loyalist way of thinking is slowly dying so it will inevitably happen over the next 2/3 generations.

[deiseach]

16 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

Has anyone thought that the hard border issue could be solved by joining Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland together as one country. Would save a lot of nonsense, surely?

[deiseach]

4 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

Most in the south don't really give a shite about the North.

I care...

[ZonkoVille77]

15 minutes ago, deiseach said:

I care...

 

You're not one of the 'most' then.

 

In my experience 'most' in the south would 'like' the idea of a United Ireland but when you press them further they are not bothered either way and couldn't care less if it happened or not. Personally, I would love to see it. Done peacefully of course.

[clangers]

Scottish Tories kicking off now, I just don't see how even with an awful lot of arm twisting May get's this through parliament? Undoubtedly the Tory loving media will be lining up to blame Labour.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

But Corbyn is still straight up wrong when he says Brexit cannot be stopped.

This is true. It's factually incorrect and (in my opinion) politically ill-advised to use a phrase like that.

 

That's not to say he should come out and say "we will stop Brexit ". Ironically, there would be nothing more certain of handing untramelled power to the racist and fundamentalist neoliberal wing of the Tory Party than for Labour to come out as full Remainers right now. 

 

He's walking a difficult tightrope - and that "not possible" line was a wobble.

[rubble-rouser]

This is a cluster fuck, and we are being cluster fucked. 

[stringvest]

Just now, rubble-rouser said:

This is a cluster fuck, and we are being cluster fucked. 

those things could rip your arsehole in half.  Ask Mook.

[Anubis]

Telegraph saying Penny Mordant and Evil McVey are set to resign from cabinet.

[Section_31]

My in-laws live in Northern Ireland, they wouldn't want to be joined with the South mainly I reckon for practical reasons. Lots of public sector jobs, free water and prescriptions.

 

Down south they don't have the NHS to the point where people go to their pharmacist the way we go to a GP,  and half the under 25s have fucked off to Canada looking for jobs.

 

Like with Scotland, I'd genuinely be interested to see how long it would take the novelty to wear off once free bridges and educations in a country of less than six million weren't being subsidised by 50 million.

[Mook]

10 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

My in-laws live in Northern Ireland, they wouldn't want to be joined with the South mainly I reckon for practical reasons. Lots of public sector jobs, free water and prescriptions.

 

Down south they don't have the NHS to the point where people go to their pharmacist the way we go to a GP,  and half the under 25s have fucked off to Canada looking for jobs.

 

Like with Scotland, I'd genuinely be interested to see how long it would take the novelty to wear off once free bridges and educations in a country of less than six million weren't being subsidised by 50 million.

I'm not quite sure it's as simple as all that, why were the powers that be in Westminster so eager to keep Scotland in the Union in 2014 if we cost them so much money?

 

Plenty of other smaller countries manage fine without England Morris Dancing in to save the day.

[Section_31]

11 minutes ago, Mook said:

I'm not quite sure it's as simple as all that, why were the powers that be in Westminster so eager to keep Scotland in the Union in 2014 if we cost them so much money?

 

Plenty of other smaller countries manage fine without England Morris Dancing in to save the day.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not being an imperialist cunt here and lord knows I can't be doing with Tories, but it's just a simple fact of economics that the smaller countries in the UK are heavily subsidised by England. 

 

I can't think of another country Scotland's size with free healthcare and free higher education. Delve deeper and there's probably a lot of public sector jobs in the mix too. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

I can't think of another country Scotland's size with free healthcare and free higher education.

 

Denmark springs instantly to mind, but there must be more.

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Denmark springs instantly to mind, but there must be more.

A mate of mine lives in Denmark. Have you seen the tax and general price of stuff there?

 

I’m not making a point, BTW. Just saying a thing. 

[Mook]

1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not being an imperialist cunt here and lord knows I can't be doing with Tories, but it's just a simple fact of economics that the smaller countries in the UK are heavily subsidised by England. 

 

I can't think of another country Scotland's size with free healthcare and free higher education. Delve deeper and there's probably a lot of public sector jobs in the mix too. 

Is it?

 

I don't think it's as definitive as that when you start looking at North Sea Oil & Faslane amongst other things, those English MPs weren't campaigning to keep Scotland in the Union in order that they could pay for the free higher education, put it that way.

 

[Strontium]

5 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

A mate of mine lives in Denmark. Have you seen the tax and general price of stuff there?

 

I’m not making a point, BTW. Just saying a thing. 

 

I think I read that stuff is about 1.5 times the cost as it is in the rest of the EU.

 

Something for us to get used to after Brexit.

[Bjornebye]

Theresa Mays head is up her arse right now and its great to watch. The dusty bin-bag. 

 

They really didn't think it all through did they. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

I think I read that stuff is about 1.5 times the cost as it is in the rest of the EU.

 

Something for us to get used to after Brexit.

Certainly looks like we will find out. It’s quite hard to predict. It will all depend on our relationship with Europe afterwards. 

[Bjornebye]

REUTERS: BREXIT: DOWNING STREET OFFICIAL SAYS PM MAY EXPECTED TO MAKE STATEMENT OUTSIDE HER OFFICE FOLLOWING CABINET MEETING APPROX 1700 GMT

[Brownie]

She’s just getting in with her statement before all of the back-stabbing comes out from the Cabinet meeting.

[SasaS]

21 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Denmark springs instantly to mind, but there must be more.

There are 12 countries in the EU about the size of Scotland or smaller and I think most of them have some form of universal health care and higher education without significant student fees.

[Trumo]

I really hate that phrase "the people have voted" that the politicians keep saying whenever the talk is about the EU and Brexit. The people had no fucking idea what they were voting for because apart from a few wishy-washy ideas and a mountain of bullshit, there was absolutely nothing in place as to how things could move forward and what might happen.

[Spy Bee]

I think this will all probably be quite straight forward from here. She seems to have got it sorted with minimal fuss.

[Denny Crane]

 

 

Tom Harwood

 

@tomhfh

 

Is it full on war? ERG source: "People will die in a ditch on this one, with bodies and limbs strewn across the field of battle

Sounds like Mogg is gonna tell his nanny to get the Brown bess ready this is war. Tory civil war hotting up.

[Brownie]

Statement not happening at 5 now.