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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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it's not. I'd prefer it if we had a true democracy. You seem to be under the illusion that we live in a true democracy. We don't. So, given that the cards are now stacked so that the right wing has the best possible chance of winning every time, I'd rather see a mechanism whereby the social democrats have the best possible chance of winning every time.

 

If you think that this country is more democratic than the EU, then as Mr Whitney Houston once put it, that's your prerogative.

It is though.

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Bobby Brown knows the eu is not democratic at all that's why no one understands how it all really works and why as mere uk citizens we have no participation or rights regards the European council. Even MC hammer doesn't doubt it's a dictatorship that removes national sovereignty. Fancy not have control of your own currency.

It will be a lot easier to get rid of the Tories.

And that's why wall streets loves it and there is a revolving door between the eu and itself.

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Austerity is an eu thing get it into your head.

No they aren't making a net contribution that's a myth, you have to factor in a lot more than gets factored in when they do the sums in that. An explosion of stagnant wages as no one gets a pay rise as employers can get a polish man to work on minimum wage for one thing.

A citizen in the dole cos they can't get a job. Polish man sending his wage home not in local economy. Etc

 

Wasn't that  a Police Academy film.

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Austerity is an eu thing get it into your head.

No they aren't making a net contribution that's a myth, you have to factor in a lot more than gets factored in when they do the sums in that. An explosion of stagnant wages as no one gets a pay rise as employers can get a polish man to work on minimum wage for one thing.

A citizen in the dole cos they can't get a job. Polish man sending his wage home not in local economy. Etc

Wow.

 

That's a whole heap of demonstrable wrong in one post.

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This thread on Twitter makes for grim reading...

https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/856878846708260865

The EU was always going to take an all or nothing approach.

 

Only two factors could change matters; major collapse politically within the big players in the EU or we withdraw article 50.

 

No political party has said they will withdraw Article 50.

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The EU was always going to take an all or nothing approach.

 

Only two factors could change matters; major collapse politically within the big players in the EU or we withdraw article 50.

 

No political party has said they will withdraw Article 50.

With Macron probably coming in on a Pro-EU ticket the UK is heading for a bumming and scraps exit. Get ready to be poor with a Tory government in charge.

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The EU was always going to take an all or nothing approach.

Only two factors could change matters; major collapse politically within the big players in the EU or we withdraw article 50.

No political party has said they will withdraw Article 50.

I'd vote for Hades if he revoked A50. Granted I'd be shot within half an hour but that's the kind of guy I am.

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I've been to a few AGMs recently with work & it's fair to say that the big companies are fucking shitting their pants about us leaving the EU.

 

What a mess.

Ours is. We've also had a video from our CEO this afternoon calming people about the Tory price cap pledge.

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Nestle moving jobs to Poland, they say it isn't due to Brexit but make of that what you will. 

 

Confectionery giant Nestle plans to cut almost 300 jobs, mainly in York and Newcastle, and move production of the Blue Riband chocolate biscuit to one of its factories in Poland.

Sites in Halifax and Girvan will also be hit, but the company hopes to cut jobs through voluntary redundancies.

Nestle said it was acting to help its sites "operate more efficiently in a rapidly changing external environment".

The GMB and Unite unions have expressed their anger at the decision.

"Rather than turning its back on its UK workforce, Nestle should be investing in its UK operations and keeping production here at plants in the UK," said Unite national officer Julia Long.

"We will be campaigning to save as many jobs as possible and pressing Nestle to think again about these plans."

Tim Roache, GMB general secretary, said: "To shift the production of an iconic British brand like Blue Riband to Poland is completely unacceptable.

"These factories should be exporting chocolate - not people's jobs.

"The government needs to step in before it's too late - and reassure millions of workers across the country this is not just the tip of the Brexit iceberg."

However, a Nestle spokesman denied the proposals were anything to do with Brexit.

He told the BBC: "This move would be necessary irrespective of the decision to leave the EU."

The spokesman added that Blue Riband was one of 16 products made at the Newcastle Fawdon site and was the only one being moved "to simplify production on a very complicated site".

The announcements are proposals and are subject to a 45-day consultation with trade unions and employee representatives.

If the cuts go ahead, they would take place over the next two years.

Nestle currently employs 8,000 people in the UK.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39708689

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Nestle moving jobs to Poland, they say it isn't due to Brexit but make of that what you will. 

 

Confectionery giant Nestle plans to cut almost 300 jobs, mainly in York and Newcastle, and move production of the Blue Riband chocolate biscuit to one of its factories in Poland.

Sites in Halifax and Girvan will also be hit, but the company hopes to cut jobs through voluntary redundancies.

Nestle said it was acting to help its sites "operate more efficiently in a rapidly changing external environment".

The GMB and Unite unions have expressed their anger at the decision.

"Rather than turning its back on its UK workforce, Nestle should be investing in its UK operations and keeping production here at plants in the UK," said Unite national officer Julia Long.

"We will be campaigning to save as many jobs as possible and pressing Nestle to think again about these plans."

Tim Roache, GMB general secretary, said: "To shift the production of an iconic British brand like Blue Riband to Poland is completely unacceptable.

"These factories should be exporting chocolate - not people's jobs.

"The government needs to step in before it's too late - and reassure millions of workers across the country this is not just the tip of the Brexit iceberg."

However, a Nestle spokesman denied the proposals were anything to do with Brexit.

He told the BBC: "This move would be necessary irrespective of the decision to leave the EU."

The spokesman added that Blue Riband was one of 16 products made at the Newcastle Fawdon site and was the only one being moved "to simplify production on a very complicated site".

The announcements are proposals and are subject to a 45-day consultation with trade unions and employee representatives.

If the cuts go ahead, they would take place over the next two years.

Nestle currently employs 8,000 people in the UK.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39708689

 

The north east first to vote leave,,believing all the shite about the poles and others getting fucked off out the country and their jobs are heading to Poland,I bet there's a few sorry people up there now.This won't be the only company to move in the coming months & years.

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The north east first to vote leave,,believing all the shite about the poles and others getting fucked off out the country and their jobs are heading to Poland,I bet there's a few sorry people up there now.This won't be the only company to move in the coming months & years.

 

Once reality kicks in they'll be wondering wtf they have done, they voted on impulse, pure and simple. 

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