Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Megadrive Man]

Remember to put your clocks back 43 years when you wake up.

[skend04]

It was mentioned on the news earlier that people are actually having Article 50 parties tomorrow.

 

Dickheads.

Disaster and horror movies have a trope of people having parties before everything turns to shit.

[magicrat]

Disaster and horror movies have a trope of people having parties before everything turns to shit.

 

Indeed but no happy ending.

 

It's all so fucking depressing because as sure a night follows day these flag waving idiots will within a year be crying foul because the thing in is turning to shit before their eyes as the scales start to fall from people eyes, A slow motion car crash  

[Sputnik1]

So is there going to be a new thread at 12:30?

[Anubis]

The leaked EU response to the triggering letter signals tough negotiations ahead for our bumbling heroes....

 

Add to that Hammond's sabre-rattling about an aggressive EU in this morning's Independent. and methinks this will not start well.  Although it also contains a lifeline to reverse Brexit if we change our mind.

 

 

 

• a future relationship agreement between the European union and the UK “can only be concluded once the United Kingdom has withdrawn from the EU”.
• there may be a transitional deal for after 2019 to ensure that custom controls and barriers on trade are not enforced on day one of Brexit, but that these arrangements should not exceed three years and will be “limited in scope as they can never be a substitute for union membership”.
• the European court of justice will be responsible for settling any legal challenges during the transition period.
• the UK will be able to revoke its notification of article 50 but this must be “subject to conditions set by all EU27 so they cannot be used as a procedural device or abused in an attempt to improve the actual terms of the United Kingdom’s membership”.
• should Britain seek to negotiate any free trade deals with other countries while it is still an EU member state, there will be no future discussion of a deal with the union.
• there will be no special deal for the City of London “providing UK-based undertakings preferential access to the single market and, or the customs union”.
• the cut-off date after which EU nationals coming to the UK lose the automatic right to residency in the UK must not be before 29 March 2019, when the country leaves the EU, or the British government will be breaking EU law.
• Britain should pay all its liabilities “arising from outstanding commitments as well as make provision for off-balance sheet items, contingent liabilities and other financial costs that arise directly as a result of its withdrawal”.
• the outcome of the negotiations on the future EU-UK relationship “cannot involve any trade-off between internal and external security including defence cooperation, on the one hand, and the future economic relationship, on the other hand”.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/29/first-eu-response-to-article-50-takes-tough-line-on-transitional-deal

[cloggypop]

It sounds like the EU actually knows what it's doing.

 

The Tory plan now is probably to leave on WTO terms and then blame the EU when it all goes horribly wrong.

[Kloppite]

I think what will happen at the end of the 2 years is negotiations between the uk and EU will not have reached a conclusion so therefore the uk will be out of the EU without and deals being arranged.

[cloggypop]

Of course the UK will have to renegotiate its WTO terms as well. Which will take years.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/5741129a-4510-11e6-b22f-79eb4891c97d

[Anubis]

Disturbing.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/leave-voters-brexit-day_uk_58db873be4b0cb23e65ccbd2?ir=UK+Politics&utm_hp_ref=uk-politics

 

 

 

New poll results released on Brexit Day give a fascinating and terrifying glimpse into what Leave voters want post-Brexit Britain to look like.

 

The YouGov survey asked people on both sides of the referendum result what should be brought back once the UK leaves the European Union.

 

Over half of Leave voters deemed capital punishment and dark blue passports as their most pressing desire with only slightly smaller majorities pushing for the reintroduction of the imperial measurement system and the right to beat schoolchildren. 

 

 

The last time the UK had the death penalty, corporal punishment in schools, the imperial system and dark blue passports all at the same time was 1965.

 

The death penalty - 

suspended in 1965 and abolished in 1969

 

Dark blue passports - 

burgundy passports introduced in 1988

 

Corporal punishment in schools - 

outlawed in 1986

 

Selling goods in pounds and ounces - 

metric system began to be adopted in 1965

 

Traditional incandescent light bulbs - 

phase out began in 2016

 

Smoking in pubs and restaurants - 

banned in 2007

 

Pre-decimal currency - 

decimal currency introduced in 1971

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Hammond was on Radio 4 this morning, repeating the plea for us all to unite, but clarifying that what we're all supposed to unite behind is "the Prime Minister's vision" of our economic future.

 

Fuck. Right. Off.

[Dr Nowt]

Wonder how soon we will see a General Election now Article 50 has been triggered.

[cloggypop]

Leaving letter in full

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/article-50-letter-read-full-brexit-theresa-may-takes-uk-out-of-eu-statement-a7655566.html

[Rico1304]

I think we all knew this would happen...

 

 

https://twitter.com/worthingmartin/status/847046475758604288

[magicrat]

I would like to blow this cunt up into tiny pieces, 

 

[Denny Crane]

 

Jan 1st 1973 

 

When did they turn on Europe?. I'm guessing the Maastricht Treaty. 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bfpjohn/status/846702483112124416

 

 

[magicrat]

 

 

Jan 1st 1973 

 

When did they turn on Europe?. I'm guessing the Maastricht Treaty. 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bfpjohn/status/846702483112124416

 

I'm guessing it was when they decided to sell papers to racists

[skend04]

Wonder how soon we will see a General Election now Article 50 has been triggered.

Fixed term Act requires 60% of all MPs to vote for it to take place. No chance any of the opposition would turn up to push it through.

[Dr Nowt]

Fixed term Act requires 60% of all MPs to vote for it to take place. No chance any of the opposition would turn up to push it through.

Doh!

[Denny Crane]

Fixed term Act requires 60% of all MPs to vote for it to take place. No chance any of the opposition would turn up to push it through.

 

Corbyn said he wouldn't block an early election the other day on Peston. If the majority of Labour mps and the tories voted then it could happen apparently.

 

Be ironic if his plp who don't want him decided to avoid an election and voted against it.

 

Saying that it seems very doubtful as there are so many unresolved issues and the tories are very wary of the electorate and with the boundary change coming up.

[skend04]

Ah sorry, a faux pas. It needs a two-thirds majority vote to agree it. Still not got the numbers and the only other way is to repeal the bill. I don't think they'd have the time or inclination to do that.

[Stickman]

I would like to blow this cunt up into tiny pieces, 

 

 

 

For those of an older generation if only that could have been a rerun of the Michael Lush stunt on Noel Edmonds Late Late Breakfast Show

[magicrat]

Fixed term Act requires 60% of all MPs to vote for it to take place. No chance any of the opposition would turn up to push it through.

 

She will go to the country if Brexit starts going tits up and she needs a mandate to fuck us all up the arse.

I could easily see a scenario where the talks stall and she is under a lot pressure She may well deem it more attractive to take her chances against Corbyn who will have no plan for a hard landing and the "no gain without pain and stand firm message" from these cunts would probably win the day She would claim it quite legitimate to dissolve Parliament under those circumstances and I am certain that's what would happen, 

[magicrat]

For those of an older generation if only that could have been a rerun of the Michael Lush stunt on Noel Edmonds Late Late Breakfast Show

 

I would also have Noel Edmonds on the wire and enjoy a double celebration

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[Rico1304]

Merkel rejects our request to have parallel trade talks. Less than 4 hours that took.