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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

I'd say the stupid stupid bastards are those who ignored the report.

Then you'd be wrong.

 

The stupid bastards are those - like you (despite having it repeatedly explained to you) - too dense to grasp that the reason there is a slight disbenefit for the poorest workers is that we still have Tory employment laws which encourage employers to exploit workers, wherever they come from; xenophobic fuckwits who cheerfully swallowed the lie the Tories sold them, that you can improve workers' pay and conditions by reducing workers' rights. 

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10 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Then you'd be wrong.

 

The stupid bastards are those - like you (despite having it repeatedly explained to you) - too dense to grasp that the reason there is a slight disbenefit for the poorest workers is that we still have Tory employment laws which encourage employers to exploit workers, wherever they come from; xenophobic fuckwits who cheerfully swallowed the lie the Tories sold them, that you can improve workers' pay and conditions by reducing workers' rights. 

Ah so let's ignore it,  fair enough let's ignore the fact immigration has had a negative effect on the working class and the poor whilst the rich prosper..

 

Keep scratching your head and wonder why you lost angry. It might dawn on you one day, though I doubt it.

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31 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Fair enough let's ignore the fact that the working class and the poor voting Tory has had a negative effect on the working class and the poor whilst the rich prosper.

 

I'll keep posting links I don't understand and it might dawn on you one day that I'm incredibly stupid, and you'll stop engaging with me, though I doubt it.

Fixed.

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27 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Fixed.

I'm not disputing voting tory is a disaster for the poor.  I'm stating a cold hard fact that mass immigration from the EU hits the poorest. 

 

Its possible to hate more than one institution at the same time. The government and the EU are just different shades of grey, both should be rejected.

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36 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I'm not disputing voting tory is a disaster for the poor.  I'm stating a cold hard fact that mass immigration from the EU hits the poorest. 

 

Its possible to hate more than one institution at the same time. The government and the EU are just different shades of grey, both should be rejected.

Well, we're now going to get mass immigration from other, even poorer countries instead. Well played.

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This guy doesn't seem that racist or thick, maybe he is though and I've got it wrong : https://www.socialeurope.eu/mass-immigration-growth-inequality

 

The EU could've been a far worse problem in the long term than whatever happens with 5 years of the Tories, even though that's not going to be good at all. If Labour had stuck to respecting the referendum instead of crying about Corbyn for years because he was socialist and pushing for remain maybe things would've worked out better.

 

A decent Labour government outside the EU could've been the best option. This country isn't very good at democracy though so we're stuck with the Tories yet again. Maybe we can stop giving other countries shit for being one-party dictatorships soon seeing as we're getting closer to being in the same territory.

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26 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Well, we're now going to get mass immigration from other, even poorer countries instead. Well played.

I'd welcome an African nurse having the same opportunity as a European nurse. The whole eu structure is slanted in favour of the rich and powerful.

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Just now, Gnasher said:

I'd welcome an African nurse having the same opportunity as a European nurse. The whole eu structure is slanted in favour of the rich and powerful.

Well Brexit won't change that, it'll make it much worse. As for the nurse, I'd rather we invested in our own people so we didn't have to strip other countries of their skilled workers, but again, Brexit's not going to make that any better. 

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An acquaintance of mine who voted leave to

 A: "stop the muslims coming here"
B: "Give Cameron a kicking"
C: "Stop 2 year MOTs"

He's just phoned me, mortified. 

"I'm f**ked, never thought they'd actually f***ing do it. I'm gonna go out of business".

Hard to feel sorry.

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4 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Ah so let's ignore it,  fair enough let's ignore the fact immigration has had a negative effect on the working class and the poor whilst the rich prosper..

 

Keep scratching your head and wonder why you lost angry. It might dawn on you one day, though I doubt it.

No, you fucking dope. Not "let's ignore it" - let's understand it and let's not allow ourselves to become stooges for the Johnsons and Rees-Moggs of this world. 

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BMW dragging their heels on investing in the Mini plant in Oxford, because... well, why wouldn't they?  Four years ago 51.9% voted to make conditions for the manufacturing sector much, much harder.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-01-31/bmw-postpones-work-on-next-generation-mini-model-due-to-brexit?fbclid=IwAR1oldtZlL4EtCkSQqekkkIwzkfReZJpdlSf62_4XvkYoo-qFA8enYVc40A

 

 

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10 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

No, you fucking dope. Not "let's ignore it" - let's understand it and let's not allow ourselves to become stooges for the Johnsons and Rees-Moggs of this world. 

You've ignored it again. Maybe you agree with it? You certainly endorse it.

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6 hours ago, Gnasher said:

You've ignored it again. Maybe you agree with it? You certainly endorse it.

Wilfully stupid.

 

We've been through this time and again and you refuse to acknowledge reality, even now.

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On 01/02/2020 at 10:00, AngryofTuebrook said:

I'm struggling to find a laugh in any of this. We already knew that millions of working class people were conned by the ruling classes and that those people will be among the hardest hit by this whole fucking mess. The fact that some of them struggle to express themselves in the media* brings me no solace or smugness. We're all fucked together. 

 

 

 

(*especially some of those last night who are clearly pissed)

I do get solace from the idiots . We're in this mess because they voted for something should be instinctive to reject based on who was asking you to vote for it. You're right we're all fucked, but at least these fucking idiots might get a proper lesson so at least in 5 years time they won't vote for the Tories again. We can see what's on the way, unfortunately they've got to be dry bummed to realise it's going to hurt. 

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46 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

I do get solace from the idiots . We're in this mess because they voted for something should be instinctive to reject based on who was asking you to vote for it. You're right we're all fucked, but at least these fucking idiots might get a proper lesson so at least in 5 years time they won't vote for the Tories again. We can see what's on the way, unfortunately they've got to be dry bummed to realise it's going to hurt. 

I see the narrative is already being set that "the nasty, evil EU are being really bad and are going to give us a really bad deal", so when the next five years are shite, it is not because it was always going to be shite but because the bastards in the EU deliberately screwed over the good, honest British bulldogs. 

 

No doubt it will be lapped up. 

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4 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

I see the narrative is already being set that "the nasty, evil EU are being really bad and are going to give us a really bad deal", so when the next five years are shite, it is not because it was always going to be shite but because the bastards in the EU deliberately screwed over the good, honest British bulldogs. 

 

No doubt it will be lapped up. 

Mate, absolutely no doubt that will be a narrative. But this is where we need a better labour leadership that fires back they told us this would be easy, they told us we don't need a deal, WTO is coolio. But the issue we obviously face is idiots are idiots, so they tend to do as they're told. But we can hope. On some ways this is the biggest shame about Clive Lewis not being in the running for the leadership as there'd be a section of those "patriotic" loons which would like him just because he served in Afghanistan. 

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