Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[AngryOfTuebrook]

11 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

Magnificent!

[Strontium]

17 hours ago, Moo said:

What makes you so sure that the Lib Dems would not choose to go into coalition with the Conservatives? 

Or is your certainty due to other reasons, such as the Conservatives will make a majority without the LD's help? 

 

Because why on earth would they go into coalition with the Conservatives? What possible reason could there be for doing that? Their policies are completely at odds. It defies all logic and common sense.

[Captain Turdseye]

13 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Because why on earth would they go into coalition with the Conservatives? What possible reason could there be for doing that? Their policies are completely at odds. It defies all logic and common sense.

 

Didn’t Swinson refuse to rule it out when pushed on it? Why would she do that?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

16 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Because why on earth would they go into coalition with the Conservatives? What possible reason could there be for doing that? Their policies are completely at odds. It defies all logic and common sense.

That sounds a bit early-2010.

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Didn’t Swinson refuse to rule it out when pushed on it? Why would she do that?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49717388

 

The Liberal Democrat leader, Jo Swinson, has ruled out entering into a coalition with the Conservatives or the Labour party if a general election delivers a hung Parliament.

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

That sounds a bit early-2010.

 

Does it? As I recall, in 2010, not only were the Tories led by a (relative) moderate with whom some compromise could be found, but all parties (including Labour, even if they've spent the last 9 years pretending otherwise) were united in agreement that serious cuts would need to be made in order to address the economic situation, which is why the economic plans of all three parties were virtually identical.

[Captain Turdseye]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49717388

 

 

 

 

She’s refused to rule it out in the past though. Can you understand why some people won’t take that at face value?

[Strontium]

Just now, Captain Turdseye said:

She’s refused to rule it out in the past though. Can you understand why some people won’t take that at face value?

 

Well, I don't know what occasion you're referring to, but even if she hadn't said anything, it surely makes zero sense for a party whose overwhelming priority is stopping Brexit to even consider supporting a party that wants to implement a hard Brexit.

[Captain Turdseye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Well, I don't know what occasion you're referring to, but even if she hadn't said anything, it surely makes zero sense for a party whose overwhelming priority is stopping Brexit to even consider supporting a party that wants to implement a hard Brexit.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jo-swinson-enters-lib-dem-16230932

 

If your party gets a sniff of power again they’ll come up with the necessary excuses. 

[mattyq]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Well, I don't know what occasion you're referring to, but even if she hadn't said anything, it surely makes zero sense for a party whose overwhelming priority is stopping Brexit to even consider supporting a party that wants to implement a hard Brexit.

I can quite easily see a situation were she joins a Johnson Gov with the expressed aim of softening Brexit... he'll throw a few bones her way on environmental protection and the SM.

Not saying it will happen but it's well within the bounds of credulity

[Strontium]

Absolute fantasy seems to be the order of the day here. I'm out.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

12 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Does it? As I recall, in 2010, not only were the Tories led by a (relative) moderate with whom some compromise could be found, but all parties (including Labour, even if they've spent the last 9 years pretending otherwise) were united in agreement that serious cuts would need to be made in order to address the economic situation, which is why the economic plans of all three parties were virtually identical.

I was just pulling your plonker, really.

 

For what it's worth, I reckon both Tories and Lib Dems have wasted so much time and effort pretending that Brexit is the only issue there is that neither party could now countenance a Coalition. 

 

We need a Labour majority Government to sort this shit out.

[Bjornebye]

45 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Absolute fantasy seems to be the order of the day here. I'm out.

How is it fantasy? It happened less than 10 years ago! The leader of the Lib Dems also called for a referendum on leaving the EU in the past! It is not fantasy at all. Not one bit. "I'm out" is because you know you are wrong on this matter. 

 

Swinson would drop her knickers and bend over for Johnson if she knew a coalition with them would aid her career. 

[skend04]

The Stella Creasy amendment has passed and now there's a chance for opposition parties to table their own amendments to the short bill. At the very least EU citizens should get the chance to vote and it should be one of the amendments that are tabled. If our resident Aussie can vote why can't those who have actual skin in the game?

[Jenson]

A 'Votes at 16' amendment has been tabled for the Election Bill. Not sure how much chance it has of being passed, but could be a bit of a game changer.

 

Election day could also possibly be designated a bank holiday.

[Strontium]

24 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

How is it fantasy? It happened less than 10 years ago! The leader of the Lib Dems also called for a referendum on leaving the EU in the past! It is not fantasy at all. Not one bit. "I'm out" is because you know you are wrong on this matter. 

 

Swinson would drop her knickers and bend over for Johnson if she knew a coalition with them would aid her career. 

 

As I already pointed out, the circumstances in 2010 could not be more different from the circumstances now.

 

I'm out because it is pointless arguing with people who are perpetuating this fantasy, against all reason. As typified by your ludicrous comment about Swinson.

[Bjornebye]

16 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

As I already pointed out, the circumstances in 2010 could not be more different from the circumstances now.

 

I'm out because it is pointless arguing with people who are perpetuating this fantasy, against all reason. As typified by your ludicrous comment about Swinson.

What is ludicrous about it?! She voted for austerity she has as much blood on her hands as any Tory. Get a grip 

[Jenson]

SNP saying they'll support the amendments for votes at 16 and EU citizens. Can see Johnson pulling this bill if those amendments pass. No way the Tories are getting a majority in those circumstances.

[Strontium]

Claiming she has blood on her hands, but apparently it's me who needs to get a grip. Outstanding.

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Claiming she has blood on her hands, but apparently it's me who needs to get a grip. Outstanding.

She has and you do need to. Simple as that. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49717388

 

Yeah. Definitely wouldn’t happen now she said a thing. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yeah. Definitely wouldn’t happen now she said a thing. 

 

No, it definitely wouldn't happen, because it definitely wouldn't happen. Pointing out that she said a thing was merely my response to claims that she hadn't said a thing.

[Jenson]

11 minutes ago, Jenson said:

SNP saying they'll support the amendments for votes at 16 and EU citizens. Can see Johnson pulling this bill if those amendments pass. No way the Tories are getting a majority in those circumstances.

 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

No, it definitely wouldn't happen, because it definitely wouldn't happen. Pointing out that she said a thing was merely my response to claims that she hadn't said a thing.

She has history for 'changing her mind' SD. No-one should believe a word she says. 

[Strontium]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

She has history for 'changing her mind' SD. No-one should believe a word she says. 

 

People should believe her until she gives them a reason not to.

 

Look, I understand that Labour are shit scared of Swinson, especially after that poll last month which showed that even Labour voters prefer Swinson to Corbyn as PM. It's an insult to my intelligence to pretend that this is anything other than that.