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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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30 minutes ago, PrivateParts said:

New research shows  (as I thought the 2016 research showed) that the Leave vote wasn't driven by the disaffected poor.

 

As I pointed out last time:

 

On 25/07/2018 at 12:45, Strontium Dog™ said:

Nobody disputes that most Leave voters were middle class - because most people in general are middle class. But since most ABC1s voted Remain, their votes weren't the deciding factor.

 

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The post Brexit Aussie trade deal going well, world beating diplomacy.

 

Career incompetent Liz Truss showing a man, of twenty years exerience negotiating trade deals, how it's done with her *checks notes* months of copy and pasting previous agreements we had as a member of the EU and agreeing to worse terms.

 

Go get 'em, Liz...

 

'Britain risks destroying trust with Australia as it tries to secure a post-Brexit trade deal, after the UK trade secretary’s allies were accused of launching an “unprovoked attack” on her counterpart on the eve of talks in London.

 

Trade experts said the reported comments about the Australian trade minister, Dan Tehan, by allies of Liz Truss were “bizarre” and “an unfortunate but serious setback for what should have been friendly negotiations”.

 

Tehan is due to meet with Truss on Thursday and Friday for talks focusing on negotiations for a free trade agreement, but has been accused by the British side of presiding over “glacially slow” progress.

 

The Telegraph in the UK quoted a source close to Truss as saying: “She plans to sit him down in the Locarno Room [in the Foreign Office] in an uncomfortable chair, so he has to deal with her directly for nine hours.” The ally, who reportedly said Truss and Tehan had struck up a good rapport, argued: “He is inexperienced compared to Liz. He needs to show that he can play at this level.'

 

Brexitainia will prosper!

 

Dickheads.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/21/bizarre-uk-comments-about-australias-trade-minister-a-serious-setback-to-talks

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On 16/10/2018 at 19:08, Anny Road said:

 

As predicted about 400 pages ago

and to agree with gnasher, who gets undeserved shit from apparently tolerant liberals for having a different view, don’t ever recall him giving anyone personal abuse but he gets a fair bit,

This is is the destruction of the Conservative Party. It cannot survive this parliamentary term. No way.

Labours moment of tipping will come but at the moment this is all on the Tories.

People have mentioned that the right of the Tory party view the hardship as a price worth paying for UK freedom.

I view this as a price worth paying to bin the Conservative Party.

Any minute now. Aaaaaany minute...

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27 minutes ago, deiseach said:

Any minute now. Aaaaaany minute...

Small facts..

 

Most of Britain has been vaccinated. The economy is looking healthy.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57008220.amp

 

The absolute shambolic strategy regarding Covid by the EU shone a light on everything wrong with the out of date organisation. The pathetic attempt by the ex president of Latvia to strike a hard border across Ireland showed how out of touch the EU really is.

 

EU president Von de Leyenn is to the Conservative party what Argentinian despot General Guittiari was to Thatcher in the eighties, a gift of incompetence and bad ideas that keeps on giving. One right wing nut job out nutjobbing the other. The former Latvian president threatened a hard border across Ireland for fucks sake and the EU responses to Covid has been predictably useless and lame.

 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Small facts..

 

Most of Britain has been vaccinated. The economy is looking healthy.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57008220.amp

 

The absolute shambolic strategy regarding Covid by the EU shone a light on everything wrong with the out of date organisation. The pathetic attempt by the ex president of Latvia to strike a hard border across Ireland showed how out of touch the EU really is.

 

EU president Von de Leyenn is to the Conservative party what Argentinian despot General Guittiari was to Thatcher in the eighties, a gift of incompetence and bad ideas that keeps on giving. One right wing nut job out nutjobbing the other. The former Latvian president threatened a hard border across Ireland for fucks sake and the EU responses to Covid has been predictably useless and lame.

 

 

 

 

"Let the bodies pile high".

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24 minutes ago, Lario said:

"Let the bodies pile high".

I totally agree with your point but I'm just stating facts that most of the UK has been partially vaccinated and that's obviously going to give a lot of the country relief from the worry of catching covid.

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4 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Small facts..

 

Most of Britain has been vaccinated. The economy is looking healthy.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57008220.amp

 

The absolute shambolic strategy regarding Covid by the EU shone a light on everything wrong with the out of date organisation. The pathetic attempt by the ex president of Latvia to strike a hard border across Ireland showed how out of touch the EU really is.

 

EU president Von de Leyenn is to the Conservative party what Argentinian despot General Guittiari was to Thatcher in the eighties, a gift of incompetence and bad ideas that keeps on giving. One right wing nut job out nutjobbing the other. The former Latvian president threatened a hard border across Ireland for fucks sake and the EU responses to Covid has been predictably useless and lame.

 

 

 

 

Absolute horseshit and completely irrelevant.  Of the millions of people who voted yesterday, do you imagine that even one of them went to the polling station thinking about Ursula von der Leyen or the ex-president of fucking Latvia?

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11 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Absolute horseshit and completely irrelevant.  Of the millions of people who voted yesterday, do you imagine that even one of them went to the polling station thinking about Ursula von der Leyen or the ex-president of fucking Latvia?

Remmieeeee!

 

I see NIP's Thelma Walker got less than 1%.

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41 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Absolute horseshit and completely irrelevant.  Of the millions of people who voted yesterday, do you imagine that even one of them went to the polling station thinking about Ursula von der Leyen or the ex-president of fucking Latvia?

No but I bet they thought of  gangmasters doing shit like below, endured in every town in Britain. 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-56988881

 

Edit. And I bet they saw the below. Rich landowners flying in cheap Labour during a pandemic. Where the fuck was the Labour party? 

 

I bet they saw it, some of these working class (gammon) types own televisions now.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-jobs-row-as-romanian-fruit-pickers-arrive-for-harvest-11974364

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5 hours ago, Gnasher said:

I totally agree with your point but I'm just stating facts that most of the UK has been partially vaccinated and that's obviously going to give a lot of the country relief from the worry of catching covid.

There would've been tens of thousands of more voters if they hadn't fucked up the pandemic in the first place.

 

Getting a good vaccine program rolled out is a very poor second choice IMHO, and the very least the fuckers could do.

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3 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Hmm...

I'll wait to here from Hartlepool rather than take your word for it, if that's OK.

Not Hartlepool the whole country. Free movement for gangmasters to move around people's and cheap labour has created a situation where the average person on the street believes the Labour party is no longer on their side. The results are obvious and oh so predictable.

 

Their was nothing so horribly tory than last summer rich people flying in poor people to do menial work, disregarding that areas poor people for the goal of driving down the price of asparagus for rich people. It should've been an open goal for the Labour party and years ago it would have been.

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2 minutes ago, Lario said:

There would've been tens of thousands of more voters if they hadn't fucked up the pandemic in the first place.

 

Getting a good vaccine program rolled out is a very poor second choice IMHO, and the very least the fuckers could do.

I don't disagree with you mate you're 100% correct.

I'm just playing devils advocate and seeing it now as the voters are possibly seeing it, not saying its right but people are relieved by the vaccine rollout and are also looking at the EU vaccination mess.

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20 hours ago, Gnasher said:

people are relieved by the vaccine rollout and are also looking at the EU vaccination mess.

With voters, it's always about perception - in this case "our vaccine rollout is much more successful than theirs, therefore we were right to leave the EU".  As with everything else, reality is far less black & white than perceptions, slogans and headlines. 

 

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2021/03/25/has-the-uk-really-outperformed-the-eu-on-covid-19-vaccinations/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2021/feb/14/brexit-britain-eu-covid-vaccination-fiasco

 

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5 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

With voters, it's always about perception - in this case "our vaccine rollout is much more successful than theirs, therefore we were right to leave the EU".  As with everything else, reality is far less black & white than perceptions, slogans and headlines. 

 

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2021/03/25/has-the-uk-really-outperformed-the-eu-on-covid-19-vaccinations/

 

This is a really handy visual to keep a check on things.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

 

Because we went against the grain and waited for twelve weeks between injections it created a weird picture, not to detract from the work the NHS and volunteers did, but Europe is now catching up after we started the marathon sprinting.

 

 

Screenshot 2021-05-08 at 10.31.21.png

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3 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

This is a really handy visual to keep a check on things.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

 

Because we went against the grain and waited for twelve weeks between injections it created a weird picture, not to detract from the work the NHS and volunteers did, but Europe is now catching up after we started the marathon sprinting.

 

 

Screenshot 2021-05-08 at 10.31.21.png

It's catching up because Pfizer / BionTech upscaled the production massively. And Germany finally relented and included GPs in vaccination efforts. UK's rollout has been exemplary, a great mix of foresight, good organization, scientific excellence, luck, nationalistic selfishness and downright cuntery, so ideal point scoring exercise for a post-Brexit government. It proved that a concept of a selfish nation state has an advantage over supranational co-operation when it comes to disasters and wars. It is why the EU doesn't have an army and works best in normal peacetime situations which do not require quick decisions, procedural risks or inventiveness of approach.

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