Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Gnasher]

Just now, Bruce Spanner said:

 

It quite clearly say 'Sorry, this item is not available' WHICH PROVES THAT IT IS NOT PHESANT SEASON AND YOU WERE WRONG AGAIN, AS ALWAYS.

 

Why not just take two seconds to think and check, it'd save you a lot of hassle.

Chill out Skippy, if Rico hasn't got a couple of Pheasants in the freezer the guests will have to settle for Beef Wellington wont they?  Beef Wellington incidentally is named after the duke of Wellington, so named because he insisted on wearing Wellies in his war with the frogs.

[Gnasher]

Be telling me Threshers got no Harvey's Bristol Cream next.

[skend04]

5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Chill out Skippy, if Rico hasn't got a couple of Pheasants in the freezer the guests will have to settle for Beef Wellington wont they?  Beef Wellington incidentally is named after the duke of Wellington, so named because he insisted on wearing Wellies in his war with the frogs.

War with frogs? I've never read about that one. It sounds mental, did he have an infestation or something?

 

Anyways ask Frost's sister if this no-blink threat in the Mail this morning is the same as the one where we gave away Northern Ireland in January.

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, skend04 said:

War with frogs? I've never read about that one. It sounds mental, did he have an infestation or something?

I believe that's what started it, we soon  sent em hopping.

[sir roger]

I am no politician, but I would hazard a guess that negotiating in the actual negotiations might be more efficient than endless streams of puff pieces in friendly media outlets. 

[Bruce Spanner]

11 minutes ago, sir roger said:

I am no politician, but I would hazard a guess that negotiating in the actual negotiations might be more efficient than endless streams of puff pieces in friendly media outlets. 

If your aim was to get a deal that is, a lot of money stands to be made off of no deal by some very familiar faces.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/28/boris-johnson-backers-benefit-from-no-deal-brexit-inquiry

[Rico1304]

26 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Chill out Skippy, if Rico hasn't got a couple of Pheasants in the freezer the guests will have to settle for Beef Wellington wont they?  Beef Wellington incidentally is named after the duke of Wellington, so named because he insisted on wearing Wellies in his war with the frogs.

Keyboard #2 before 10:30. 

[Gnasher]

Here we go, this to save the day for Rico, this will impress em. 

 

https://www.wildmeat.co.uk/collections/wild-boar/products/wild-boar-haunch-joints

 

Skippy the killjoy probably come on and  say it had it last week and it tastes like leather, 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Yeah tell her her brother should grow a pair of bollocks and resign in protest at the government leading us towards a disastrous no deal brexit.

A disastrous No Deal  Brexit was always the intention.  It's only disastrous for 99% of us.  Johnson and his class will be coining it.  Frost won't resign for doing the job he was appointed to do.

 

This is exactly what these cunts have been working towards for nearly 5 years  - and exactly why nearly half the electorate decided that, all things considered, we'd be better off remaining in the EU. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

I’ll get him to chuck in some fish and chip scented lube. 

Filthy immigrant muck.

[Gnasher]

6 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

A disastrous No Deal  Brexit was always the intention.  It's only disastrous for 99% of us.  Johnson and his class will be coining it.  Frost won't resign for doing the job he was appointed to do.

 

This is exactly what these cunts have been working towards for nearly 5 years  - and exactly why nearly half the electorate decided that, all things considered, we'd be better off remaining in the EU. 

A lot assumptions of there angry. You've gone a bit Mystic Meg.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

A lot assumptions of there angry. You've gone a bit Mystic Meg.

Jesus wept!

 

You really would have to be as dense as a Boxing Day turd not to realise what the hardcore racist neoliberals who have seized control of the Tory Party have been up to.  They've made no secret of it.

 

Next time someone says to you "I disagree with you and here are some verifiable facts to support my position" you might do well to pay attention, rather than just hurl comically inaccurate insults and post ancient irrelevant shit about Neil bastard Kinnock. 

[Bruce Spanner]

14 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

A lot assumptions of there angry. You've gone a bit Mystic Meg.

 

I don't know there seems to be a lot of smoke...

 

https://labourlist.org/2019/09/no-deal-brexit-who-gains-boris-johnsons-friends/

 

https://www.economistsforfreetrade.com/Media/sunday-telegraph-eu-to-lose-500bn-and-uk-to-gain-640bn-in-no-deal-brexit-economist-claims/

 

https://www.investopedia.com/news/brexit-winners-and-losers/

 

https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/investment-trusts/2019/09/05/time-to-profit-from-no-deal-hysteria/

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/isas/no-deal-brexit-stocks-will-soar-value/

 

I've tried to give a broad range of articles which all say the same thing from different ideological perspectives, including the investigative stuff in the first article. These are only some of the articles on the issue which provide evidence, analysis and conjecture, a critical mind would then form an opinion based on the available evidence.

 

Instead of wasting your time on here being shown up as idiotic read them, try to understand them and then re-engage, it'll be better for all in the long run.

[Gnasher]

25 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

A disastrous No Deal  Brexit was always the intention.  It's only disastrous for 99% of us.  Johnson and his class will be coining it.  Frost won't resign for doing the job he was appointed to do.

 

This is exactly what these cunts have been working towards for nearly 5 years  - and exactly why nearly half the electorate decided that, all things considered, we'd be better off remaining in the EU. 

So you are telling me a no deal brexit was the intention the day we voted to leave the eu.?  Bullshit. 

[Gnasher]

4 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

I don't know there seems to be a lot of smoke...

 

https://labourlist.org/2019/09/no-deal-brexit-who-gains-boris-johnsons-friends/

 

https://www.economistsforfreetrade.com/Media/sunday-telegraph-eu-to-lose-500bn-and-uk-to-gain-640bn-in-no-deal-brexit-economist-claims/

 

https://www.investopedia.com/news/brexit-winners-and-losers/

 

https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/investment-trusts/2019/09/05/time-to-profit-from-no-deal-hysteria/

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/isas/no-deal-brexit-stocks-will-soar-value/

 

I've tried to give a broad range of articles which all say the same thing from different ideological perspectives, including the investigative stuff in the first article. These are only some of the articles on the issue which provide evidence, analysis and conjecture, a critical mind would then form an opinion based on the available evidence.

 

Instead of wasting your time on here being shown up as idiotic read them, try to understand them and then re engage, it'll be better for all in the long run.

Or why dont you your condescending tone and jog off?  You're a sanctimonious tit .

[Bruce Spanner]

Just now, Gnasher said:

Or why dont you your condescending tone and jog off?  You're a sanctimonious tit .

 

Revel in ignorance, ignore the experts, parrot the slogans...

 

Brexitland and it's golden dawn is waiting for us all, rejoice!

[Bruce Spanner]

Interesting article from The Atlantic about how no-deal has been normalised for those who care to read it...

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/08/how-no-deal-brexit-became-new-normal/596524/

[Gnasher]

Just now, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Revel in ignorance, ignore the experts, parrot the slogans...

 

Brexitland and it's golden dawn is waiting for us all, rejoice!

A few simple facts. Boris Johnson, Ress Mogg and most of the hard line brexiteers were not even in the cabinet when we left the eu. So to suggest a no deal brexit was cast in stone is fanciful.

 

Obviously times and the tory party have changed and a no deal brexit is a benefit to the hedge funders, that I agree.

[Rico1304]

5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Or why dont you your condescending tone and jog off?  You're a sanctimonious tit .

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[Tourt]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Chill out Skippy, if Rico hasn't got a couple of Pheasants in the freezer the guests will have to settle for Beef Wellington wont they?  Beef Wellington incidentally is named after the duke of Wellington, so named because he insisted on wearing Wellies in his war with the frogs.

Not true.

 

He was made Duke of Wellington after his victory at Waterloo.

 

The Wellington in question was a small market town in the West Country with which the Duke had no connection what so ever. To accept the title he had to be a Duke of somewhere, the town was chosen at random.

 

The Duke was unimpressed by grand titles following his difficult relationships with Portuguese and Spanish allies during the Peninsular Campaign who exalted in grandiose appendages to their names. The choice of Wellington was a private joke, a one fingered gesture to his former allies.

 

The Duke never wore dominatrix style willies when on campaign in India, Portugal or Spain. He found them uncomfortable in hot climates and wore sturdy, infantry style boots instead. He did wear his famous boots at Waterloo simply because he left his usual footwear in the UK.

 

The source of pointless trivia is Elizabeth Longford’s, Wellington: the Years of the Sword.

[Bruce Spanner]

Just now, Gnasher said:

A few simple facts. Boris Johnson, Ress Mogg and most of the hard line brexiteers were not even in the cabinet when we left the eu. So to suggest a no deal brexit was cast in stone is fanciful.

 

Obviously times and the tory party have changed and a no deal brexit is a benefit to the hedge funders, that I agree.

 

No, but they were the key drivers behind 'leave' with your mate, Aaron Banks, and have seized control of the party based on the success of this to further their agenda, or their friends agenda as is being suggested, and are pushing for no deal as they, and their friend, will benifit significantly. It's a carve up you can see from space if you took the time to look. You can find The 'Kippers say no deal right from the start and the Tory leavers started to ape this as it was popular with the rabble, leading, in part, to Johnsons huge election victory.

 

Really you are beyond help if you can't at least entertain the idea that you could possibly be wrong, or at least entertain ideas that do not confirm your bias.

 

It's a stitch up and always has been.

[Gnasher]

3 minutes ago, Tourt said:

Not true.

 

He was made Duke of Wellington after his victory at Waterloo.

 

The Wellington in question was a small market town in the West Country with which the Duke had no connection what so ever. To accept the title he had to be a Duke of somewhere, the town was chosen at random.

 

The Duke was unimpressed by grand titles following his difficult relationships with Portuguese and Spanish allies during the Peninsular Campaign who exalted in grandiose appendages to their names. The choice of Wellington was a private joke, a one fingered gesture to his former allies.

 

The Duke never wore dominatrix style willies when on campaign in India, Portugal or Spain. He found them uncomfortable in hot climates and wore sturdy, infantry style boots instead. He did wear his famous boots at Waterloo simply because he left his usual footwear in the UK.

 

The source of pointless trivia is Elizabeth Longford’s, Wellington: the Years of the Sword.

Hes gone right down in my eyes, bastard.

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

No, but they were the key drivers behind 'leave' with your mate, Aaron Banks, and have seized control of the party based on the success of this to further their agenda, or their friends agenda as is being suggested, and are pushing for no deal as they, and their friend, will benifit significantly. It's a carve up you can see from space if you took the time to look. You can find The 'Kippers say no deal right from the start and the Tory leavers started to ape this as it was popular with the rabble, leading, in part, to Johnsons huge election victory.

 

Really you are beyond help if you can't at least entertain the idea that you could possibly be wrong, or at least entertain ideas that do not confirm your bias.

 

It's a stitch up and always has been.

Yes a group have always worked towards no deal to make money on the markets I'm not disputing it but to suggest at the time of the referendum a  no deal outcome was cast in stone if we voted leave (as angry and yourself seem to imply) or a no deal outcome was even likely is pushing it a bit, you would have probably got a double figure quote on a no deal brexit with the bookies a year ago.

[Rico1304]

7 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Yes a group have always worked towards no deal to make money on the markets I'm not disputing it but to suggest at the time of the referendum a  no deal outcome was cast in stone if we voted leave (as angry and yourself seem to imply) or a no deal outcome was even likely is pushing it a bit, you would have probably got a double figure quote on a no deal brexit with the bookies a year ago.

They were 5/4 in 2018. 

[Bruce Spanner]

19 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Yes a group have always worked towards no deal to make money on the markets I'm not disputing it but to suggest at the time of the referendum a  no deal outcome was cast in stone if we voted leave (as angry and yourself seem to imply) or a no deal outcome was even likely is pushing it a bit, you would have probably got a double figure quote on a no deal brexit with the bookies a year ago.

The whole point is the public were not given clear parameters of what ‘exit’ meant, then words like ‘hard’ and ‘soft’ start getting mentioned, which don't really have any meaning considering the nuances involved, and ‘crashing out’ starts to pollute the discussion further.

 

This ambiguity has been there from the start, quite deliberately, so the public can’t keep track of the machinations. In the meanwhile Johnson and his rabble have got control of Parliament, have the ears of the editors and are indebted to a whole lot of backers who want a return on their ‘investments’ and are, evidently, pursuing an agenda towards no-deal. Now if Johnson is as useless as is being reported then he’s been manipulated in to this position, or if he has not then he’s sociopathic and leading the country towards catastrophe to appease his friends and backers.
 

Each scenario is abhorrent, but lead to the conclusion that no deal was, at least considered, a viable option and one a small group of people would benefit significantly from, even if that wasn’t stated explicitly.