Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Thread notified to the Animal Liberation Front...

Oh, those animals are going to get like berated. Bee’lee dat. 

[Anubis]

Aged well, this has not.

 

 

 

[Duff Man]

He knows exactly what he's doing, and what the deal said. Get ready for a whole lot more of it, too. Between now and the end of the year the nuttier element of the party are going to start talking up no-deal again; their equivalents in the press will do the same, and it's probably what will happen, because it's good for them and their mates, and more importantly consolidates the Tories' status as the one true party of Brexit.

 

This is the logical conclusion of the politics of flag-fucking, folks. At some point you have to deliver on the xenophobia and lies, or the fash start eating into your vote. Excited for Progressive Patriotism under Labour, though. I'm sure that will be the counter-weight the country so desperately needs.

[Marko121]

8 hours ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

So, basically, when you signed it and voted for it, you hadn't fucking read it. 

 

Classic Brexiteer bollocks.  

Not only that, but the cunt also voted to limit the scrutiny time given to the WA - so no other fucker could read it properly either, and supported the Govt when they kicked out those who told them this was wrong 

[Numero Veinticinco]

 

[No2]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/08/brexit-backers-tate-lyle-set-to-gain-73m-from-end-of-eu-trade-tariffs

 

Shocked I am.

[Gnasher]

More eu hypocrisy 

 

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

Gonna be weird having the EU bully Britain (let’s face it, England, once the Union is dissolved) when they’re on the outside after all the bullshit Britain bullied the EU with whilst they were on the inside.

 

Going to be a glorious period for the UK of toadying. 

[Gnasher]

Thought according to a few on here our beloved eu do not interfere in the business of single countries like Spain with Catalonia? 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/17/eu-calls-leaders-to-emergency-summit-to-support-belarus-people

 

Angry won't be happy.

[skend04]

30 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Thought according to a few on here our beloved eu do not interfere in the business of single countries like Spain with Catalonia? 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/17/eu-calls-leaders-to-emergency-summit-to-support-belarus-people

 

Angry won't be happy.

Is Belarus in Russia?

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, skend04 said:

Is Belarus in Russia?

Google it.

[Gnasher]

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/08/belarus/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

 

 

A few on here said the eu do.not involve themselves in single countries, that argument was a load of bollocks. When it suits.

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Thought according to a few on here our beloved eu do not interfere in the business of single countries like Spain with Catalonia? 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/17/eu-calls-leaders-to-emergency-summit-to-support-belarus-people

 

Angry won't be happy.

Hypocrisy 

 

https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/eu-can-no-longer-ignore-catalonia-says-puigdemont

 

[Gnasher]

Seems the eu are only interested in defending the old east European countries close to Russia with a large young male workforce.  The people who voted in Catalonia can go fuck themselves.

 

I wonder why?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Thought according to a few on here our beloved eu do not interfere in the business of single countries like Spain with Catalonia? 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/17/eu-calls-leaders-to-emergency-summit-to-support-belarus-people

 

Angry won't be happy.

The EU don't generally interfere in domestic matters of Member States. 

 

You're having a mare her, Gnash.

[mattyq]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Seems the eu are only interested in defending the old east European countries close to Russia with a large young male workforce.  The people who voted in Catalonia can go fuck themselves.

 

I wonder why?

I reckon it's because the whole Catalonia issue is/was regarded as an internal matter for a member State whereas the Belarus situation is, hopefully, the last gasp of the last European dictator of a non member State

What do you think?

[Gnasher]

14 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

The EU don't generally interfere in domestic matters of Member States. 

 

You're having a mare her, Gnash.

Eh Rightio. Keep putting lipstick on the pig angry 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

34 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

The EU don't generally interfere in domestic matters of Member States. 

 

You're having a mare her, Gnash.

Hypocrisy 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/15/the-catalan-crisis-scotland-and-the-role-of-the-eu

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, mattyq said:

I reckon it's because the whole Catalonia issue is/was regarded as an internal matter for a member State whereas the Belarus situation is, hopefully, the last gasp of the last European dictator of a non member State

What do you think?

 

But it's not "the last gasp" of a European dictatorship, as you put it. 

 

Also the Catalonia issue which saw pensioners beaten with sticks at a ballot box was glossed over, Catalonia would not be an internal matter if democracy was followed. 

 

The Catalonia peoples won a vote, no interference,. The Belarus election which was won by the government seems to require EU intervention. 

 

Stinks to high heaven. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

You can criticise the EU's lack of action when a Member State government does something twatty.

 

You can (if you want) criticise the EU for taking action when the government of a non-Member State does something twatty.

 

What you can't honestly do is accuse the EU of hypocrisy for responding differently to different situations. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

12 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

But it's not "the last gasp" of a European dictatorship, as you put it. 

Fucking hope it is!

[mattyq]

10 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

But it's not "the last gasp" of a European dictatorship, as you put it. 

 

Also the Catalonia issue which saw pensioners beaten with sticks at a ballot box was glossed over, Catalonia would not be an internal matter if democracy was followed. 

 

The Catalonia peoples won a vote, no interference,. The Belarus election which was won by the government seems to require EU intervention. 

 

Stinks to high heaven. 

Mate, I'm not defending what the Spanish Govt. did because it was shit

The Catalan vote was illegal under Spanish law

The Spanish Govt. is elected fair & square

The Belarus election was, by all accounts, heavily rigged as it has been for the last 20 years.

The President is, by all accounts again, a very nasty dictator in the old school Soviet style

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Fucking hope it is!

I bet you do. Unfortunately for you and your eu cronies the people of Belarus thought otherwise.

[cloggypop]

2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I bet you do. Unfortunately for you and your eu cronies the people of Belarus thought otherwise.

You think Lukashenko legitimately got 80.23% of the vote? 

[Gnasher]

On 09/10/2017 at 21:59, AngryofTuebrook said:

I've not looked into it too much, but it looks like they played it with a straight bat.  

Statement By The European Commission On Catalonia

"Brussels, 2 October 2017

Under the Spanish Constitution, yesterday's vote in Catalonia was not legal.

For the European Commission, as President Juncker has reiterated repeatedly, this is an internal matter for Spain that has to be dealt with in line with the constitutional order of Spain.

We also reiterate the legal position held by this Commission as well as by its predecessors. If a referendum were to be organised in line with the Spanish Constitution it would mean that the territory leaving would find itself outside of the European Union.

Beyond the purely legal aspects of this matter, the Commission believes that these are times for unity and stability, not divisiveness and fragmentation.

We call on all relevant players to now move very swiftly from confrontation to dialogue. Violence can never be an instrument in politics. We trust the leadership of Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy to manage this difficult process in full respect of the Spanish Constitution and of the fundamental rights of citizens enshrined therein."

 

I'm not sure what else they could have done, without overstepping a mark in terms of meddling in a Member State's internal affairs.

 

The recent outburst of violence and repression in Catalonia came from Madrid, not Brussels.

Er ok.