Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 22/07/2020 at 08:52, Gnasher said:

Why is it? Why do you think all the other posters who professed doubts about the eu have gone?  Do you think this forum is balanced? 

They've been driven off a cliff by a feral mob armed with rudimentary spears?

[Gnasher]

52 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

They've been driven off a cliff by a feral mob armed with rudimentary spears?

Chased all the way to Berlin? Seriously though angry the above story with Romanian workers unshackelling the chains that bind them is a feel good story. I enjoyed the Romanian minister driving to Germany to tell the great and the good a few home truths, good for her.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 22/07/2020 at 11:49, skend04 said:

No you just post the same drivel, hoping for a different reaction. It's not pleasant to watch someone's internet persona descend into what I can only describe as a severe type of psychosis.

Are you suggesting he's crazy in the coconut?

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

They've been driven off a cliff by a feral mob armed with rudimentary spears?

A few of the bully boys out tonight, it must be the video above with the Romanian lady not saying complimentary things about modern day slave masters. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Now heres a good story, well done this Romanian minister telling the rich countries to basically go fuck themselves and well done the Romanians setting up their own business. Fuck the gangmasters.

 

 

 

It is good news, but it's really not an argument against the EU.

 

The Romanian minister went to Germany to say the same things I've been saying all along - that migrant workers need and deserve the same rights as workers from the host country.

The Romanians establishing their strawberry farms say, in that report, that they worked hard, but they enjoyed their time in Spain and Italy - and it was the remittances sent home from Spain that allowed one couple there to start their strawberry farm.  That story could be used as an argument for EU membership, because they clearly benefited from an opportunity that they wouldn't have had if Romania was not a Member State.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

A few of the bully boys out tonight, it must be the video above with the Romanian lady not saying complimentary things about modern day slave masters. 

Did you watch a different clip?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Anyhoo... here's a coalition of anti-slavery groups warning about the risks of Brexit.

 

https://www.antislavery.org/brexit-modern-slavery/

 

Brexit poses an ‘existential threat’ to UK’s co-operation with European countries that is essential to tackle modern slavery, said the Anti-Trafficking Monitoring Group (ATMG), a coalition of thirteen UK anti-trafficking organisations that monitors the UK’s progress in the fight against modern slavery.

 

In the new paper entitled “Brexit and the UK’s fight against modern slavery“, the ATMG points out that the European Union has played a big role in shaping UK’s domestic efforts to tackle modern slavery, and warned that cutting ties with the EU risks all the good work done by the British government up to date.

 

“Despite some flaws in UK domestic anti-trafficking policy, the numbers of identified victims is on the up and increasing number of traffickers are sent to jail. But by Brexiting we risk jeopardising the progress made in tackling modern slavery and protecting its victims”, said Dr Aidan McQuade, director of Anti-Slavery International that leads the coalition.

 

In combatting what is often a transnational crime, the UK has relied heavily on involvement in European mechanisms, such as Europol and Eurojust, which allow closer collaboration between the police forces of Member States, to dismantle trafficking networks and bring traffickers to justice.

 

“The UK has strongly benefitted in its efforts against trafficking from measures that these EU mechanisms facilitate, such as intelligence sharing with the source countries, criminal databases, so-called Joint Investigation Teams to carry out trans-national investigations, and European Arrest Warrants. Britain could lose access to all of them after Brexit,” McQuade stated.

 

“Theresa May made fighting modern slavery her flagship project, but she risks undermining it if she goes ahead with her plans to quit the CJEU because of the threat this poses to continued security and criminal justice cooperation”, said McQuade. “Given the international nature of modern slavery this would be a disaster for the UK’s anti-trafficking work, and ultimately would increase the risk of vulnerable people falling victims of vicious criminals.”

 

The paper also identifies other crucial elements stemming from the EU laws contributing to Britain’s anti-slavery efforts that are under threat post-Brexit, such as victims’ and workers’ rights, pan-European co-ordination of anti-trafficking efforts of both the states and civil society actors, information-sharing platforms, and funding for anti-slavery organisations working on European-wide projects.

 

Although it’s likely that in the short term key legislation that protects victims’ and workers’ rights will be retained post-Brexit, there is a significant risk that this legislation will be repealed or amended in the longer-term without reference to parliament.

 

“The UK has been following the EU’s lead in terms of legal protections for victims of trafficking and employment rights preventing exploitation. If we leave the EU there is a real risk that these rights could eroded”, said Vicky Brotherton, ATMG Co-ordinator and author of the report.

 

“For example, as the Modern Slavery Act doesn’t guarantee in law the support for the victims such as a recovery period and access to compensation, victims have had to instead rely on EU law to claim their rights. If we leave the EU, victims of modern slavery in England and Wales might lose these vital legal protections”, she added.

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Did you watch a different clip?

Why would you say that?  The Romanian minister drove to Germany to give the cunts what for. The Romanian workers freed their shackles and started their own business back home.  Fuck the big boys from italy, England, Germany etc, good on em, it's the way forward. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

31 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Why would you say that?  The Romanian minister drove to Germany to give the cunts what for. The Romanian workers freed their shackles and started their own business back home.  Fuck the big boys from italy, England, Germany etc, good on em, it's the way forward. 

 

None of the migrant workers in the clip talked in terms of "freeing their shackles".  None of them talked about being in "shackles" of any sort.  This isn't some sort of modern European version of the Underground Railroad.

 

They went to work away for a few seasons; then they came home and settled down.  Basically, they did what was right for them at the time.  It's the kind of thing you're allowed to do when you have the right to work in other countries.

[Rico1304]

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Kate Hoey and Gisela Stuart - forthright opponents of unelected twats interfering in our government  - are off to the House of Lords, to accept the rewards from the hard-right wing of the Tory Party for all their stirling work for them.

 

Ian Austin, John Woodcock and Frank Field have also been rewarded for their tireless efforts against the Labour Party. 

[Anubis]

Fuckwits now beginning to realise they’re fuckwits and crying about it.

 

 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

So, basically, when you signed it and voted for it, you hadn't fucking read it. 

 

Classic Brexiteer bollocks.  

[Anubis]

It gets better...

 

 

 

[Anubis]

2 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

So, basically, when you signed it and voted for it, you hadn't fucking read it. 

 

Classic Brexiteer bollocks.  

You’d laugh if it wasn’t so serious. Just incredible.

[Mudface]

C'mon now, no one reads the small print. I haven't a clue what my Chester Zoo membership or gym pass agreements say.

 

 

[skend04]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/04/number-of-uk-citizens-emigrating-to-eu-has-risen-by-30-since-brexit-vote

 

Brain drain. Although I suspect a few Brexit voting fuckwits have taken the option to emigrate to Spain too.

[Mudface]

2 minutes ago, skend04 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/04/number-of-uk-citizens-emigrating-to-eu-has-risen-by-30-since-brexit-vote

 

Brain drain. Although I suspect a few Brexit voting fuckwits have taken the option to emigrate to Spain too.

Remember for years we were told taxes absolutely couldn't be raised on the rich because they'd disappear abroad? 

[sir roger]

3 hours ago, Mudface said:

C'mon now, no one reads the small print. I haven't a clue what my Chester Zoo membership or gym pass agreements say.

 

 

If it's a gold membership you are allowed to bum three animals per annum ( To clarify, I mean Chester Zoo )

[Mudface]

1 minute ago, sir roger said:

If it's a gold membership you are allowed to bum three animals per annum ( To clarify, I mean Chester Zoo )

Fuck's sake, I'm missing out on a lot of benefits by the sounds of it. That sexy leopard that was giving me the eye last time I was there would definitely get it.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, sir roger said:

If it's a gold membership you are allowed to bum three animals per annum ( To clarify, I mean Chester Zoo )

What are the Platinum benefits?

 

Interested for a friend. 

[Mudface]

Just now, Nummer Neunzehn said:

What are the Platinum benefits?

 

Interested for a friend. 

Penguin orgies.

[Anubis]

Thread notified to the Animal Liberation Front...

[Numero Veinticinco]

6 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Penguin orgies.

If I don’t post for a while it’s because I’m trying to help a friend. It’s not related to this. 
 

Out of interest, and totally unrelated, anybody got any a coupon code for, let’s say, I dunno... Chester Zoo? 

[Scooby Dudek]

3 hours ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

So, basically, when you signed it and voted for it, you hadn't fucking read it. 

 

Classic Brexiteer bollocks.  

Then blaming the EU for their fuck up is a classic.