Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Bjornebye]

39 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

What bollocks. The first bollocks - utter fucking insulting bollocks on your part - saying not voting Labour is holding disabled, terminally ill, austerity victims and climate change victims to account. What, because I’d vote Green rather than a Labour Party that has achieved the grand total off fuck all for years against a dog shit unpopular Tory party? Yeah, pull the other one. I’d hold the party account for their members of Parliament, not at risk groups. Ridiculous, 

 

Secondly, you want to talk about victims of war and voting labour in the same sentence? Fuck. That. Noise. 
 

If Labour MPs take us out of Europe into a Tory brexit that will be very bad for those people you mentioned, I’ll not lend my vote to make more Labour MPs. I’ll vote for somebody that I actually believe in rather than the serial fucking failures and enablers of shit I don’t want. If that makes me a cunt in your view, I’ll just have to live with that. You think it’s a tantrum? Fine. You want to talk about perpetual Tory rule?! Fucking hell, it is Labour that is causing that, you big fanny. 
 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yeah, it's bad news. Being accused of going against the people that Brexit will fuck over because I don't want to vote for a Party who has members who enabled the Tories - any more than I'd vote for the Lib Dems who enabled them - is a bit close to the fucking knuckle. I was a rape victim accuser supporter yesterday because I wasn't happy to invent something that somebody didn't say, now I'm out to fuck over the terminally ill and the war victims because I don't want to subject those people to a Tory Brexit. Yeah, I'm a real fucker. 

 

'Never' was a stretch because, as somebody rightly replied - and I conceded - that it's a small number and you shouldn't punish the entire party. Fair comment, but how could I vote for a party that I didn't trust not to help the Tories over the line. Fuck that, man. It'd take a long while for Labour to gain my trust back as a party of government, or even a party able to attain government. It's not a tantrum not to vote for Labour when you stop believing in Labour's ability to either stop the Tories or even not to back the fuckers. 

 

8 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Don’t think I ever voted Green in my life. I generally vote for the party that most likely if either winning the seat ahead of the Tories or the party that will most closely challenge them. Depending on where I’ve been living at the time, that’s either Labour or Lib Dem down the years. 
 

However, Green are, according to those ‘which party should you vote for’ quizzes based on the policies and manifestos, the  party I’m closest to. So if I’m going to waste my vote, I figure I might as well waste my vote on a party that 1) wont damage anything 2) have a decent overall agenda. 

Very anti-labour rhetoric to then say you will vote Labour if it suits.... 

 

You have also massively lost the plot on two of them posts as well. I have highlighted the parts where you are eating glass. 

[Megadrive Man]

Spot on @Pistonbroke

 

They constantly say things will happen in 5 years time knowing full well they won't be there and the next tory cunt will be making the same 5 year promise. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

7 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

Very anti-labour rhetoric to then say you will vote Labour if it suits.... 

 

You have also massively lost the plot on two of them posts as well. I have highlighted the parts where you are eating glass. 

Good stuff. *sigh*
 

I’ve been criticising Labour for years on here, mainly because they’re generally shit at everything. It shouldn’t come as much of a shock I vote for them to keep the nasty party out. 

 

As for your highlights, I stick by them. As an aside, You have a real talent for saying nothing more than amounts to blowing raspberries and wafting farts. Say something about the subject and stop trying to offer a posting-style critique. Seriously, you come across as a shit-stirrer who is more at home in comments section on Facebook. 

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Good stuff. I’ve been criticising Labour for years on here, mainly because they’re generally shit at everything. It shouldn’t come as much of a shock I vote for them to keep the nasty party out. 

 

As for your highlights, I stick by them. As an aside, You have a real talent for saying nothing more than amounts to blowing raspberries and wafting farts. Say something about the subject and stop trying to offer a posting-style critique.

Go back through the last few weeks. i've more than stated my case on brexshit. 

 

As for the subject, I think you are a hypocrite. Oh and I also think you need to calm down. I have highlighted why I think so. You can tell me to fuck off, thats absolutely fine. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Go back through the last few weeks. i've more than stated my case on brexshit. 

 

As for the subject, I think you are a hypocrite. Oh and I also think you need to calm down. I have highlighted why I think so. You can tell me to fuck off, thats absolutely fine. It won't stop me carling you a fucking weird maniac. 

Fuck off. 
 

Oh, and I don’t suppose you’re willing to show or at least explain how I’m a hypocrite? 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I wonder how safe Pensioners should be feeling. Because that tripple lock down on pensions will probably be attacked at some point, i remember Maybot banging on about a less generous double Lock whilst she was PM. 

[Megadrive Man]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I’ve been criticising Labour for years on here, mainly because they’re generally shit at everything. It shouldn’t come as much of a shock I vote for them to keep the nasty party out. 

What do want Labour to do? Do you want them to move back to the centre?

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Fuck off. 
 

Oh, and I don’t suppose you’re willing to show or at least explain how I’m a hypocrite? 

You do that yourself on a daily basis you dribbling, argumentative, boring bog-roll holder. 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

I wonder how safe Pensioners should be feeling. Because that tripple lock down on pensions will probably be attacked at some point, i remember Maybot banging on about a less generous double Lock whilst she was PM. 

Have you not heard? Rico got a new job 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

You do that yourself on a daily basis you dribbling, argumentative, boring bog-roll holder. 

I’ll take that as a no? 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I’ll take that as a no? 

Take it however you want. You usually do to everyone else. 

[Sugar Ape]

7 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

It goes without saying that the poor suffer the most impact due to Austerity/cuts, but they are pretty much at rock bottom now, only so far you can go before the cornered dog bites you. The cuts needed due to Brexit could and probably will be the middle class becoming a target for the Tories. Once an election is out of the way mind. The Tories don#t see the poor voting for them, so they couldn't give a fuck about them. Not much more to take away though, so it would be natural progression to target the next class, the fuckers will only be thinking about the next 5 years if they were to win an election and have to see Brexit through to the end, they can line their pockets and that of their mates and then just fuck off to pastures new. I doubt many of the current bunch at the top give a flying fuck about the future of their own party. 

You may think this is rock bottom, but if Brexit happens and Johnson wins a full five year term with a majority then I think you’ll see things can get much worse. 
 

The Tories are unlikely to raise taxes which would be the easiest way to impact the middle class. Instead, they’ll just cut even more the budgets for councils to help the elderly and disabled, they’ll introduce some charges in the NHS which, again, will impact most on the people who can least afford it, Universal credit and child benefits can be cut, possibly VAT could be raised, all these things will hit the poorest more than the middle class. There is no way the middle class will take the brunt of the cuts. 

[Sugar Ape]

Give it a rest Stig. If you’re not following SD around the forum commenting on everything he says then you’re doing it to NV. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Sugar Ape said:

Give it a rest Stig. If you’re not following SD around the forum commenting on everything he says then you’re doing it to NV. 

I won't. He does it to every other cunt. You follow me round like a shitbag making snidey comments all the time. Wind your neck in thinking you can tell people what to do. 

 

And I'll think you'll find its only been the past few days that I (and others) have noticed that NV is arguing with multiple people on here on a daily basis. 

[magicrat]

2 hours ago, Anubis said:

This is how the ERG have been bought off. There is a suspicion (see David Gauke and his reasons for voting for Letwin’s amendment) that the government have no intention of negotiating a free trade agreement and will happily crash out in 2020 on WTO rules, which is effectively no deal.

I have heard the same.  Gove has been instrumental in disclosing the masterplan to the loons

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

What do want Labour to do? Do you want them to move back to the centre?

I’d like a few things from Labour. First, elect a leader who will stand a chance of winning a majority. I’d like him to be smart, principled, pragmatic rather than ideological, and not have a fuck load of baggage. Then I’d like them to act as a party that wants to win by hiring the right staff to fight the Tories in a way that positions them to win so that they can actually get left wing social policies in place for those who need it. I’m sure there’s more, but that’ll do for now. 

[Megadrive Man]

Just now, magicrat said:

I have heard the same.  Gove has been instrumental in disclosing the masterplan to the loons

It explains why Gove was being so weird when ruling out a 2nd referendum. I thought he was just coked up again.

[Numero Veinticinco]

6 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Take it however you want. You usually do to everyone else. 

Jesus. The state of you. 

[Sugar Ape]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

I won't. He does it to every other cunt. You follow me round like a shitbag making snidey comments all the time. Wind your neck in thinking you can tell people what to do. 

 

And I'll think you'll find its only been the past few days that I (and others) have noticed that NV is arguing with multiple people on here on a daily basis. 

I don’t follow you around and I’ll happily say anything I’ve got to say to you to your face. And go fuck yourself. You’re the one harassing people all over the forum you weird cunt.

 

And you’ve only just noticed (despite him posting on here for about a decade and having thousands of posts) that NV is arguing with people on a daily basis? More like you’ve just picked a new target because you’re not getting a rise out of SD anymore. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Sugar Ape said:

I don’t follow you around and I’ll happily say anything I’ve got to say to you to your face. And go fuck yourself. You’re the one harassing people all over the forum you weird cunt.

 

And you’ve only just noticed (despite him posting on here for about a decade and having thousands of posts) that NV is arguing with people on a daily basis? More like you’ve just picked a new target because you’re not getting a rise out of SD anymore. 

You go fuck yourself. Say it to my face all you want it doesn't mean you don't do it you snide prick. It doesn't bother me one bit, I can take it but don't pick a side then act like you are whiter than white. 

 

Who am I harassing? NV who is arguing left right and centre and SD who I disagree with? Who else? You do it all the time with a smug fucking attitude. 

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Jesus. The state of you. 

That is my point about you. You are losing it lately. 

[The Golden Eel]

3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Come on Cracker, do your bit you fucking moose

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I’d like a few things from Labour. First, elect a leader who will stand a chance of winning a majority. I’d like him to be smart, principled, pragmatic rather than ideological, and not have a fuck load of baggage. Then I’d like them to act as a party that wants to win by hiring the right staff to fight the Tories in a way that positions them to win so that they can actually get left wing social policies in place for those who need it. I’m sure there’s more, but that’ll do for now. 

Problem is, who the hell has all of that? I was banging the Burnham drum until someone pointed out that he did stuff with the s*n. 

[Megadrive Man]

6 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I’d like a few things from Labour. First, elect a leader who will stand a chance of winning a majority. I’d like him to be smart, principled, pragmatic rather than ideological, and not have a fuck load of baggage. Then I’d like them to act as a party that wants to win by hiring the right staff to fight the Tories in a way that positions them to win so that they can actually get left wing social policies in place for those who need it. I’m sure there’s more, but that’ll do for now. 

Corbyn was always going to be the baby step to getting left wing social policies in place. 

 

I do think that politics is changing, its just going to take a long time.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

That is my point about you. You are losing it lately. 

Yeah, okay. *sigh*