Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Numero Veinticinco]

6 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Yeah, I just don't know if that Labour for a deal crew can be trusted and then you have the usual crowd of Stringer and his motley crew too.

It does worry me, yeah. I guess we are going to find out. 

[ZonkoVille77]

It hasn't been mentioned much in the news, but the DUP met with the UDA and UVF last week. Consulting terrorist orgs on an ongoing basis about Brexit, yet have the nerve to suggest Sinn Fein are dangerous.  They also yesterday claimed this new deal rides roughshod over the GFA, yet they voted against the GFA. Bunch of absolute fucking cunts and anyone who supports them is a cunt too.

 

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2019/10/16/news/dup-defends-arlene-foster-s-astonishing-meetings-with-senior-loyalists-1739844/

 

[Denny Crane]

I highly doubt there would be enough Labour and Lib Dem MPs voting for this deal. If the reported deal is worse than May's and they know the threat of No Deal has been averted. Why vote for this deal, if you voted against May's deal? I understand why the ERG would support it let's not forget that on the last vote Johnson and Mogg voted for May's deal. 

 

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, viRdjil said:

That little bit of hope I ever had died with Crystal Palace's equaliser in 2014.

 

27 minutes ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

A certain hateful little cunt not being struck by a lightning bolt on the touchline at Anfield the previous weekend, Shirley?

I often wish that the train tracks I pissed on after the Palace game had been live enough to have melted me into a fucking puddle on the platform. That was the aim at the time. 

[Bjornebye]

I see they have taken all of the flags down outside parliament behind the BBC platform. 

[Marko121]

John Mann saying that around 10 from Labour will vote for the deal. They should be ashamed of themselves. 
 

The cunt will get it through and be hailed a brexit hero. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Marko121 said:

John Mann saying that around 10 from Labour will vote for the deal. They should be ashamed of themselves. 
 

The cunt will get it through and be hailed a brexit hero. 

Well John Manns constituency voted around 70% to leave the EU. All about himself then. Fucking shithouse. 

[Vincent Vega]

43 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

I highly doubt there would be enough Labour and Lib Dem MPs voting for this deal. If the reported deal is worse than May's and they know the threat of No Deal has been averted. Why vote for this deal, if you voted against May's deal? I understand why the ERG would support it let's not forget that on the last vote Johnson and Mogg voted for May's deal. 

 

I think there's Brexit fatigue amongst MPs as well as much of the public. It's something the Tories are counting on to get their shit deal through.

 

I know a lot of these Labour MPs in leave voting areas are under massive pressure from many in their constituencies, but any Labour MP voting for a deal that they know makes the country poorer, and erodes workers rights, needs to have the whip removed, or at the very least be told they aren't allowed to stand as a Labour candidate at the next election. The whole point of the Labour party is to stand up for workers and their rights. If Labour MPs voting for this Tory deal do not have the whip removed/are prevented from standing at the next election, I would have to consider cancelling my membership of the party as to me this would look like the party has endorsed them voting for the deal.

[Vincent Vega]

One party who must be very nervous at the moment is the Lib Dems. If this deal goes through they're fucked as they have literally nothing to say or offer apart from remaining in the EU and if we've already left why would anyone bother voting for them?

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

One party who must be very nervous at the moment is the Lib Dems. If this deal goes through they're fucked as they have literally nothing to say or offer apart from remaining in the EU and if we've already left why would anyone bother voting for them?

Well, they’re not Tory or Labour. That’s going to get quite a few votes. 

[M_B]

My original confidence that folks would stand with the DUP has gone. They are going to be left standing at the altar. Its going to scrape through isn't it.

[Vincent Vega]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Well, they’re not Tory or Labour. That’s going to get quite a few votes. 

The well-heeled, socially liberal people who don't want to go full Tory but don't really like the idea that they may have to pay higher taxes will obviously stick with them.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Johnson being lauded as an absolute hero. Dick head country, they where aghast at Mays deal it was an act of treachery what's the big difference between the two.

[Jairzinho]

38 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

One party who must be very nervous at the moment is the Lib Dems. If this deal goes through they're fucked as they have literally nothing to say or offer apart from remaining in the EU and if we've already left why would anyone bother voting for them?

Nah, they've positioned themselves as mainstream Tories from a few years ago. Loads still want that.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

1 hour ago, Marko121 said:

John Mann saying that around 10 from Labour will vote for the deal. They should be ashamed of themselves. 
 

The cunt will get it through and be hailed a brexit hero. 

 

For all of about two weeks until the media divulge the details in pretty pictures and charts for leave voters to understand that it's a shit deal for most. Once reality sets in the fuckers will be out on the streets whining about the shit state of everything, oblivious to the fact they voted for it. 

 

What most people (especially leave voters) don't realise that this is just the initial deal, most of the gubbings have to be worked out over a two year period thereafter. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Some of the #FBPE crew are unbearable. And I say that even as a remainer.

 

They're convinced that Corbyn will miss tomorrow's debate and vote because he has an evening event in Liverpool. 

 

Of course he'll vote. Haven't these people heard of trains and cars? 

[Bjornebye]

Have I completely missed NV being a Lib-Dem???? 

 

Being really argumentative lately as well especially since Jo Swin..........

 

Hang on...... 

 

 

 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Some of the #FBPE crew are unbearable. And I say that even as a remainer.

 

They're convinced that Corbyn will miss tomorrow's debate and vote because he has an evening event in Liverpool. 

 

Of course he'll vote. Haven't these people heard of trains and cars? 

Hahahaha fucking hell. No wonder the thick cunts voted leave. 

[Denny Crane]

1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said:

I think there's Brexit fatigue amongst MPs as well as much of the public. It's something the Tories are counting on to get their shit deal through.

 

I know a lot of these Labour MPs in leave voting areas are under massive pressure from many in their constituencies, but any Labour MP voting for a deal that they know makes the country poorer, and erodes workers rights, needs to have the whip removed, or at the very least be told they aren't allowed to stand as a Labour candidate at the next election. The whole point of the Labour party is to stand up for workers and their rights. If Labour MPs voting for this Tory deal do not have the whip removed/are prevented from standing at the next election, I would have to consider cancelling my membership of the party as to me this would look like the party has endorsed them voting for the deal.

 

If they want a get out they should just say. There is no way they can be rushed and vote for this deal get an extension and we will give it a proper assessment. This arbitrary deadline is all Johnson and the Conservative party's doing. 

[Denny Crane]

Stephen Lloyd and Norman Lamb who were two of twelve Lib Dem MPs in 2017 are thought to be voting for the deal. Although Lloyd has now left the Lib Dems and is standing as an independent. 

[deiseach]

1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said:

One party who must be very nervous at the moment is the Lib Dems. If this deal goes through they're fucked as they have literally nothing to say or offer apart from remaining in the EU and if we've already left why would anyone bother voting for them?

You don't think there is going to be space in British politics for a join-the-EU party? 

[Moctezuma]

36 minutes ago, deiseach said:

You don't think there is going to be space in British politics for a join-the-EU party? 

Yup this is exactly where they would end up

[Guest Pistonbroke]

8 minutes ago, Moctezuma said:

Yup this is exactly where they would end up

 

Unless they are needed to form a coalition, we all know how easy they stab their own voters in the back, front, side and eyes.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I think that the decision to have the vote on Johnson's deal tomorrow is bordering on undemocratic. 

 

We're a parliamentary democracy. Parliament are elected to make decisions on our behalf. Informed decisions. They've had nowhere near sufficient enough time to give the deal full scrutiny. They aren't going to have sight of impact assessments re: this new deal. 

 

Tomorrow's vote isn't really one of voting based on the merits and implications of the deal. It's a vote tinged by fear. Of voting for the deal to potentially avoid a no deal Brexit. The MPs need to hold their nerve. 

[Jairzinho]

Just watching Pedro Sánchez on telly. He's a pretty bog standard centre left ish politician, but seems like the most impressive human on the planet compared to the absolute shower of shit cunts in government in the UK.