Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Guest Pistonbroke]

27 minutes ago, Mudface said:

So it's basically exactly the same as what May tried to get away with a while back (early 2018?). With the same outcome, the DUP won't go along with it. What a waste of fucking time and skin Johnson is.

 

Johnson can lay the blame at the door of the DUP when he has to ask for an extension. Political games. 

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, skend04 said:

There is no No Deal now. Unfortunately.

No “No Deal” this month. Still possible after right? The most foolproof way to avoid “No Deal” Brexit is to leave the EU with this deal IMO.

[Mudface]

Just now, viRdjil said:

No no deal this month. Still possible after right?

Presumably the Benn act would still apply?

[Guest Pistonbroke]

A new extension would see the Tories pushing for a GE in the hope they can win with a majority, they would then drop the DUP like a hot stone and just plough ahead however they wanted. They'll promise all sorts as is usual with those lying cunts then once Brexit is done and dusted (if it ever actually happens) they'll just dress up Austerity as Brexterity. 'You wanted Brexit, we delivered. We now have to tighten the budget for a brighter future, we're all in this together, yada yada yada' before fucking off to a Michelin star Restaurant for a nose bag. 

[aRdja]

4 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Presumably the Benn act would still apply?

I don’t think this is the case.

[skend04]

11 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

I don’t think this is the case.

I believe it applies until a deal is agreed by parliament.

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, skend04 said:

It applies until a deal is agreed by parliament.

I don’t think thats right Skend. The wording of the act is very specific especially on dates.

[M_B]

Even if it doesn't they could just pass another one.

 

An election is probably the best chance of resolving the issue one way or another. This deal isn't going to get through Parliament without DUP support.

 

 

[Sugar Ape]

2 minutes ago, skend04 said:

I believe it applies until a deal is agreed by parliament.

It only relates to an extension until the end of January 2020 doesn’t it?

 

No parliament can bind a future parliament. If they pass the extension until January and then have an election, which the Tories win, they can do whatever they like. Take us out with a no deal straight away if they want to and have a majority 

[skend04]

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/benn-act

 

5. The Act requires the secretary of state to publish further reports every 28 calendar days from 7 February 2020 until the UK reaches a deal with the EU – or the House of Commons decides it doesn’t need to.

 

It pretty much prevents a No Deal in this parliament for sure. But as Sugar says a new government could do away with it. If they have the numbers to repeal the act.

[M_B]

I see the threats are out again. It's the old Hungary veto one. Anything to get the deal over the line on Saturday.

[skend04]

Apparently DUP now on board.

[Captain Turdseye]

 

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

I think it will go through. The Tory defects and the Kinnock-led faction of the Labour Party will vote for it. 

[skend04]

10 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Apparently DUP now on board.

Scratch that. DUP still against it. All very Trumpian this, I'm assuming that BoJo and EU are trying to bounce them into agreeing it.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

It seems that this deal is being rushed through with very little time to scrutinise it. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

(Not my work)

 

Apparently Dolly Johnson has been begging the DUP all morning. 

 

Alene, Alene, Arlene, ARLENE,

I'm begging on you please don't break my plan

 

 

[RobbieOR]

That doesn't have the numbers to get through surely. 

[cloggypop]

Look where the capo is. Thick cunt. 

[ZonkoVille77]

The DUP might settle for cheques at the border.

[M_B]

33 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

I think it will go through. The Tory defects and the Kinnock-led faction of the Labour Party will vote for it. 

Its going to be close. The DUP and most of the opposition will vote against if the DUP don't support it.

 

But between now and Saturday, Operation threaten no deal will go into overdrive, so maybe, just maybe it will scrape though.

 

Notably we havent seen the legal text of the agreement, and I doubt we will until the very last second.

 

Edit: I suspect the opposition will push to attach a referendum to it. If thats agreed, then it will fly through Parliament.

[Numero Veinticinco]

17 minutes ago, RobbieOR said:

That doesn't have the numbers to get through surely. 

Depends, mate. It’s going to be fucking close. 

[Bjornebye]

Does anyone think a second referendum will have a similar outcome? I think a second referendum would be a landline to remain. I actually think if they held one again a week after the last one it would have been remain. 

 

That Boris rhetoric though ... Lets get Brexit done so we can focus on public issues blah blah blah. 

 

You mean blogging false help and hope to the masses whilst selling off the NHS and continuing the Tory tradition of opening the class gap. 

 

Funny how his affair has been swept under the carpet this week..... Also what happened to him wanting a No Deal for his billionaire bastards to get richer quick? 

 

Im hoping for a commons showdown on Saturday so I can sit back and watch him get ripped to shreds. 

 

Looks like the EU have got him by the balls knowing full well they look to have satisfied a deal knowing full well it won't get through. Again. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

I think it’ll be more strongly leave with his deal. 

[Dr Nowt]