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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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14 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Bask in your neo con bullshit angry, carry on kid, hope it makes you feel good.

 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/a-greek-tragedy-how-the-eu-is-destroying-a-country/

 

The above link is from a paper more right wing than this forum.

Yeah... anti-reality insults and deflection instead of admitting that your assumption that the EU and neoliberalism are the same thing is just flat wrong.

 

I've been round these circles too many times to be arsed repeating it. If you feel any need for re-runs, just pick any page you've posted on in the last 12 months and have a wank over it.

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2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Yeah... anti-reality insults and deflection instead of admitting that your assumption that the EU and neoliberalism are the same thing is just flat wrong.

 

I've been round these circles too many times to be arsed repeating it. If you feel any need for re-runs, just pick any page you've posted on in the last 12 months and have a wank over it.

Why the fuck are you and your followers  basking  upon the demise of Europe's one socialist government.

 

In my opinion, and apparently all opinions are still allowed on this forum

 

You should be fucking ashamed of yourselfs. 

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2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Why the fuck are you and your followers  basking  upon the demise of Europe's one socialist government.

 

In my opinion, and apparently all opinions are still allowed on this forum

 

You should be fucking ashamed of yourselfs. 

Racist

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2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

It should be the only feasible choice for all European countries to go left after a decade of privatisation and austerity. 

What do we want!?

 

‘A minority government that’s not going to change economic policy’
 

When do we want it!?

 

Fuck the EU! 

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17 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

Johnson’s possible loophole regarding the Benn Act, is that it could be considered coercion.

Article 51 of the Vienna Convention on Treaties (1969)

 

https://treaties.un.org/doc/publication/unts/volume 1155/volume-1155-i-18232-english.pdf

Being held accountable to law isn’t coercion. What a load of old bollocks. 

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14 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Being held accountable to law isn’t coercion. What a load of old bollocks. 


Article 51. COERCION OF A REPRESENTATIVE OF STATE
The expression of a State's consent to be bound by a treaty which has been pro
cured by the coercion of its representative through acts or threats directed against him shall be without any legal effect.

 

The Benn Act specifically calls upon Johnson to be an official representative of the UK seeking an extension. He is bound by a statute law; however, Britain are bound by the Vienna Convention. In effect, Johnson can write the letter, and then appeal to Europe to dismiss it, under the terms of article 51.

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21 minutes ago, Red Shift said:


Article 51. COERCION OF A REPRESENTATIVE OF STATE
The expression of a State's consent to be bound by a treaty which has been pro
cured by the coercion of its representative through acts or threats directed against him shall be without any legal effect.

 

The Benn Act specifically calls upon Johnson to be an official representative of the UK seeking an extension. He is bound by a statute law; however, Britain are bound by the Vienna Convention. In effect, Johnson can write the letter, and then appeal to Europe to dismiss it, under the terms of article 51.

Yes, like I said, a load of old bollocks.  

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They know full well we’re extending at this point. His whole period in Downing Street has been one long demagogue’s election campaign from someone neither willing nor capable of putting in the political hard yards to resolve Brexit through legitimate methods. 

 

That’s what these fucking get ready for Brexit ads are all about isn’t it. Just heard one while in the car. All to increase the rage, confusion and sense of injustice in people not following the daily minutiae by making them think it’s happening and feel like it’s been stymied unfairly at the last moment. “It was even on the radio we were leaving, it was official”.

 

Swear the absolute fucking cunt will end up triumphantly brandishing May’s deal with a lick of paint on it, the other side of an election.

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1 hour ago, Red Shift said:


Article 51. COERCION OF A REPRESENTATIVE OF STATE
The expression of a State's consent to be bound by a treaty which has been pro
cured by the coercion of its representative through acts or threats directed against him shall be without any legal effect.

 

The Benn Act specifically calls upon Johnson to be an official representative of the UK seeking an extension. He is bound by a statute law; however, Britain are bound by the Vienna Convention. In effect, Johnson can write the letter, and then appeal to Europe to dismiss it, under the terms of article 51.

So... who coerced whom?

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3 hours ago, Red Shift said:


Article 51. COERCION OF A REPRESENTATIVE OF STATE
The expression of a State's consent to be bound by a treaty which has been pro
cured by the coercion of its representative through acts or threats directed against him shall be without any legal effect.

 

The Benn Act specifically calls upon Johnson to be an official representative of the UK seeking an extension. He is bound by a statute law; however, Britain are bound by the Vienna Convention. In effect, Johnson can write the letter, and then appeal to Europe to dismiss it, under the terms of article 51.


It places on him a responsibility to obtain an extension for negotiations. It does not coerce him into signing a treaty.

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