Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Bjornebye]

Just now, lifetime fan said:

Disagree with Danny’s politics as much as you want but he’s a funny fucker. 

He has the combination of 'laugh with' and 'laugh at' fairly close. 

[lifetime fan]

He makes me laugh a lot. 

 

In a good way. 

[Bjornebye]

15 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

He makes me laugh a lot. 

 

In a good way. 

Doesn't surprise me... some of the stuff you've sent me 

[lifetime fan]

5 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Doesn't surprise me... some of the stuff you've sent me 

 

Those dick pics were between us! 

[Dr Nowt]

[moof]

The ironically named one is at it again. 

 

 

[Anubis]

Pretty much nails it here.

 

 

 

[moof]

I honestly can’t believe he’s a real person, let alone MP, let alone chair of the party of government 

 

 

meritocracy init

[magicrat]

He's too fucking cleverly for his own good. Fascist cunt

[TheHowieLama]

Would rather listen to Tom Cleverly talk about politics and then watch this fella play f**ty if I could. That would be great.

[sir roger]

His face looks like it has slipped from its rightful moorings.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

IFS saying that No Deal would send national debt through the roof.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49961301

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

According to Newsnight and The Spectator, the Johnson regime's cunning plan to get around the Benn Act is to send the extension letter, as required, but to tell EU Member States that if they agree to an extension - i.e. if they go along with the spirit and the intent of UK law - they will be at the back of the queue for negotiations on security, defence, trade, etc.

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2019/10/07/no10-leak-reveals-johnsons-plan-to-bypass-law-requiring-brexit-extension-make-respecting-uk-law-hostile-interference/

 

Effectively, Johnson is trying to enlist foreign governments to help him fight his domestic political battles.  I can't think where he gets his ideas from.

 

He is also threatening to pull the plug on the whole thing and to fight a General Election on the basis of No Deal, if the EU Member States go along with UK law.

 

He's a desperate, dangerous cunt.

 

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

According to Newsnight and The Spectator, the Johnson regime's cunning plan to get around the Benn Act is to send the extension letter, as required, but to tell EU Member States that if they agree to an extension - i.e. if they go along with the spirit and the intent of UK law - they will be at the back of the queue for negotiations on security, defence, trade, etc.

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2019/10/07/no10-leak-reveals-johnsons-plan-to-bypass-law-requiring-brexit-extension-make-respecting-uk-law-hostile-interference/

 

Effectively, Johnson is trying to enlist foreign governments to help him fight his domestic political battles.  I can't think where he gets his ideas from.

 

He is also threatening to pull the plug on the whole thing and to fight a General Election on the basis of No Deal, if the EU Member States go along with UK law.

 

He's a desperate, dangerous cunt.

 

The EU is a trading block. 

 

This is good. 

 

 

[aRdja]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

According to Newsnight and The Spectator, the Johnson regime's cunning plan to get around the Benn Act is to send the extension letter, as required, but to tell EU Member States that if they agree to an extension - i.e. if they go along with the spirit and the intent of UK law - they will be at the back of the queue for negotiations on security, defence, trade, etc.

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2019/10/07/no10-leak-reveals-johnsons-plan-to-bypass-law-requiring-brexit-extension-make-respecting-uk-law-hostile-interference/

 

Effectively, Johnson is trying to enlist foreign governments to help him fight his domestic political battles.  I can't think where he gets his ideas from.

 

He is also threatening to pull the plug on the whole thing and to fight a General Election on the basis of No Deal, if the EU Member States go along with UK law.

 

He's a desperate, dangerous cunt.

 

That makes no sense at all

[Denny Crane]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

According to Newsnight and The Spectator, the Johnson regime's cunning plan to get around the Benn Act is to send the extension letter, as required, but to tell EU Member States that if they agree to an extension - i.e. if they go along with the spirit and the intent of UK law - they will be at the back of the queue for negotiations on security, defence, trade, etc.

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2019/10/07/no10-leak-reveals-johnsons-plan-to-bypass-law-requiring-brexit-extension-make-respecting-uk-law-hostile-interference/

 

Effectively, Johnson is trying to enlist foreign governments to help him fight his domestic political battles.  I can't think where he gets his ideas from.

 

He is also threatening to pull the plug on the whole thing and to fight a General Election on the basis of No Deal, if the EU Member States go along with UK law.

 

He's a desperate, dangerous cunt.

 

 

 

It's all misinformation. I guess he can tell the likes of Peston, BBC Laura and the newsnight team any old bollocks and they will reguitate it as talking points. However the courts are another matter. As David Allen Green said Johnson has surrendered to the surrender act. So it looks like we have a new deadline day of  the 31st of Jan. 

 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1181246218032353286

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

30 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

That makes no sense at all

No.

 

But it will impress the stupider element of his base. "Good old Boris! Batting for Britain and letting Johnny Foreigner know that we're no pushover!"

[M_B]

Cummings has shot himself in the foot with that latest threat. It exposes that they don't really have a way around the 'surrender' bill after all and it unites the EU27 as a block. It also highlights that good old British hubris is far from dead.

[sir roger]

I don't think there has ever been a plan really , the whole charade has been an effort to make it seem like the EU and the opposition are frustrating their wonderful plans for a new UK Utopia. The scary thing is that, if you believe the polls, the majority of the British voting public might just be moronic enough to make it work.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

[Dr Nowt]

Prescient thread from July:

 

 

[House of Dirk]

A sniper and a grassy knoll for boris. 

[Denny Crane]

Hard not to look at some of the legal commentators and see the difference in quality and objectivity in their coverage. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There’s a growing campaign to sack Laura Kuenssberg. This seems to me an example of the fundamental attribution error. What’s wrong with the BBC is not so much Ms Kuenssberg herself, but the very nature of political reporting. I suspect instead that there’s a case for sacking all its political correspondents.

For one thing, they are redundant. All worthwhile issues could be as well or better covered by specialist reporters in other fields. For example, the junior doctors dispute could be covered by health or industrial relations correspondents; the local elections by local government reporters; the Brexit debate by economics, foreign or diplomatic reporters. And so on. The relative standings of the parties could be reported simply by comment-free reports on opinion polls or on Oddschecker’s election odds, in the same way that daily changes in the FTSE 100 are reported without comment.

Which poses the question: what do political correspondents add?

One thing is gossip. Political correspondents’ sources are anonymous briefings from “senior figures”, “sources close to Number 10” and other people too cowardly to go on the record. This gives us politics dominated by tittle-tattle and personal grievances rather than by checkable public evidence.

This, though, is not the only way in which the very existence of political correspondents warps politics. They incentivize parties to invest in spin doctors and the management of short-term headlines (which are mostly noise) rather than in more democratic forms, such as building a mass party membership and using those members to change the political climate through the gradual process of millions of individual conversations. In this sense, Westminster-based political reporting encourages closed hierarchical politics rather than more open egalitarian ones.

Let’s do a thought experiment. Imagine we got rid of political correspondents so that policy was reported by specialist journalists instead. What would happen?

There’d be a shift in the knowledge base of journalists. The opinions of politicians would have less weight and those of experts more. This would diminish bubblethink – or at worst, give us a multitude of different bubbles which would at least be some improvement. And it would make politics more technocratic because politicians’ utterances – which of course must still be reported – would be judged not just against each other’s, but against the weight of evidence and expert opinion.

Rather than have what Paul Krugman calls “views differ on shape of planet” journalism – of the sort lampooned by Alexander Cockburn – claims would be seriously tested. For example, Hunt’s assertion that people are more likely to die if admitted to hospital on a weekend would be counterposed not just to a Labour party statement, but to academic research on the matter. This would encourage a more evidence-based politics.

The BBC can do this: Radio 4’s More or Less is a model of what I have in mind. Getting rid of political journalists would give more space and resources to this vastly superior journalism.

Now, I’m not calling here for the sacking of all political journalists: in a free country, the private sector media should hire whomever it wants. But the BBC is different. It has a duty of due impartiality. However, this is inconsistent with the employment of political journalists, because their prominence has the effect of biasing politics against openness, egalitarianism and evidence – which is anything but impartial.  

[moof]

The state of this chinless wonder

[M_B]

Classy stuff

 

 

Edit: grrr For some reason the embedded picture doesnt show....