Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[mattyq]

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I'm not a fan, but Jess Phillips has superbly called out the likes of Johnson, Cummings and the haunted pencil for treating Parliament like a big game that they can fuck about with for their own benefit. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Jess Phillips was very emotional then. 

 

Democracy - fucking democracy - in this country is on a knife edge. 

[Duff Man]

That is kind of her default.

[Section_31]

9 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

That is kind of her default.

She's lactating and I for one am delighted. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

34 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Nothing class about any of it, the whole house is rammed with disingenuous, lying, self serving turds.

A lot of them are there to enrich themselves by impoverishing millions.

 

Some of them are there to do the right thing. 

 

The days of "they're all the same" (if that were ever really true) are over.

[Boss]

The right thing is not doing everything in your power to stop the result of a democratic vote being implemented. The right thing is putting it to the people. Let the people decide what they want. No deal or a Jeremy Corbyn government. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Clarke hammering Johnson. If their is a general election, against all odds he could help Labours turn-out. Not by backing Corbyn but by tories wanting Johnson out on the back of Clarkes damning comments. 

Reminded me of when Geoffrey Howe crucified Thatcher with his cricket metaphor.

[Red Phoenix]

What about a legalise weed amendment instead of this brexit and election obsession? Haven't been stoned in ages, the self serving twats.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 minutes ago, Boss said:

Let the people decide what they want. No deal or a Jeremy Corbyn government. 

Which, of necessity, means no GE until we've got the legislation in place to prevent a default No Deal.

[Boss]

1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Which, of necessity, means no GE until we've got the legislation in place to prevent a default No Deal.

Why? Surely the public should make that decision.

[Dr Nowt]

That really was quite the comprehensive dismantling of Johnson from Clarke.

 

Marvellous stuff.

 

I thought Swinson followed that fairly well

with her own summary of the cunt.

[Boss]

Clarke can drink as much wine as he wants from the sidelines now. 

[Moo]

18 minutes ago, Boss said:

The right thing is not doing everything in your power to stop the result of a democratic vote being implemented. The right thing is putting it to the people. Let the people decide what they want. No deal or a Jeremy Corbyn government. 

Odd suggestion.

Why advocate asking a different question now to the one that was asked 3 years ago via a general election rather than another referendum? You must know that's nonsense. 

[Boss]

1 minute ago, Moo said:

Odd suggestion.

Why advocate asking a different question now to the one that was asked 3 years ago via a general election rather than another referendum? You must know that's nonsense. 

 

Another referendum would declare the same result.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

11 minutes ago, Boss said:

Why? Surely the public should make that decision.

Because to go for a GE without first passing that legislation leaves the probability of the UK falling out of the EU by default, during the election campaign period, with the public having no say in the decision. 

[Boss]

1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Because to go for a GE without first passing that legislation leaves the probability of the UK falling out of the EU by default, during the election campaign period, with the public having no say in the decision. 

Not if the election is scheduled before the deadline. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, Boss said:

 

Another referendum would declare the same result.

I don't think anybody is calling for a  re-run, with the same question.

 

Ask a different question and you'll get a different answer.

[Megadrive Man]

17 minutes ago, Boss said:

Why? Surely the public should make that decision.

Do you really Trust Boris Johnson to actually allow that to happen? I don't.

[Leyton388]

Even if the bill gets passed if the tories get a majority in the next GE cant they just revoke it and still go for no deal?

[Boss]

Just now, MegadriveMan said:

Do you really Trust Boris Johnson to actually allow that to happen? I don't.

 

The public will be giving Boris a mandate for no deal if he wins a majority in the next GE. If Corbyn wins a majority the public would be giving him a mandate to reverse Brexit. 

[Megadrive Man]

4 minutes ago, Boss said:

Not if the election is scheduled before the deadline. 

 

If Theresa May was in charge then maybe, she at least behaved like a Prime minister. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, Boss said:

Not if the election is scheduled before the deadline. 

The sitting PM  - who, in this case,  is a lifelong liar and clearly horny for No Deal (and not a fan of democracy) - is allowed to unilaterally change the date of the election after Parliament closes. So, he can tell Parliament that the election will be before 31st October and then change the date until afterwards, thereby depriving the people of any say in how we leave the EU. 

[Boss]

Just now, AngryofTuebrook said:

The sitting PM  - who, in this case,  is a lifelong liar and clearly horny for No Deal (and not a fan of democracy) - is allowed to unilaterally change the date of the election after Parliament closes. So, he can tell Parliament that the election will be before 31st October and then change the date until afterwards, thereby depriving the people of any say in how we leave the EU. 

Well schedule a snap election before parliament closes. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

The public will be giving Boris a mandate for no deal if he wins a majority in the next GE. If Corbyn wins a majority the public would be giving him a mandate to reverse Brexit. 

You're missing the point.  If he had won the vote tonight and had called an early election, he wouldn't have needed a mandate. He would have dissolved Parliament and then deferred the election until after the UK had crashed out with No Deal.  The public wouldn't get a say until it was too late.