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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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2 hours ago, Moo said:

Agree, it also means it won't be a Labour figure going over Corbyn's head and how that would "look" for his authority. Everything, especially politics, is so superficial these days that image really matters irrespective of this extraordinary Brexit problem needing an extraordinary solution. 

It’s not really about “the optics”, is it, it’s about democracy. Ken fucking Clarke... dear god 

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Ignore the names and look at the job titles.

 

Is there anyone other than the Leader of the Opposition that is a credible leader of an interim Government?  Why are the gobshites resisting this: all he's intending to do is sit in for a couple of weeks, give them everything they claim they want, then call a General Election.

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6 hours ago, Gnasher said:

The story I linked to was something that's actually happening, in real life.

 

The story you linked to was Chukka Umunna (and the Grauniad headline writer) misrepresenting Corbyn's opinion.  It's so hard to know what to believe!

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1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Ignore the names and look at the job titles.

 

Is there anyone other than the Leader of the Opposition that is a credible leader of an interim Government?  Why are the gobshites resisting this: all he's intending to do is sit in for a couple of weeks, give them everything they claim they want, then call a General Election.

The idea of having Corbyn as a PM is unpalatable to many many Tory’s.  How fucking hard is that to understand. Having him as PM could prevent them rebelling.  Having a neutral benefits everyone.  

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1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

The idea of having Corbyn as a PM is unpalatable to many many Tory’s.  How fucking hard is that to understand. Having him as PM could prevent them rebelling.  Having a neutral benefits everyone.  

The problem, then, is the pig-headed intransigence of Tories  (and their Lib Dem and Tinge-Group chums) who would rather hurl the country off a cliff than vote alongside the Leader of the Opposition on two or three issues, which they claim they support.  They are very clearly in the wrong here.

 

Also, there are no "neutrals".

 

How hard is that to understand?

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1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

The idea of having Corbyn as a PM is unpalatable to many many Tory’s.  How fucking hard is that to understand. Having him as PM could prevent them rebelling.  Having a neutral benefits everyone.  

If it's really going to work and it's agreed that they're only getting the power to stop no deal for an extension then call an election, it might be best to just get Swinson or Sturgeon to do it. I'd rather that than a whole load of arguing that leads us to no deal.

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If my party were the sole architects of this entire cunting mess, and the opposition were offering me and the country a way out, I'd probably be tempted to show a bit of humility, hold my nose and just get on with it, rather than start making absurd deal breaking demands right at the last minute.

 

I find it genuinely astonishing that people think ANY TORY MP AT ALL is in a position to start calling the fucking shots here. It's their mess and they should take the reputational hit, the absolute fucking twats.

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2 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

The idea of having Corbyn as a PM is unpalatable to many many Tory’s.  How fucking hard is that to understand. Having him as PM could prevent them rebelling.  Having a neutral benefits everyone.  

Yeah, you're right mate. It's all Corbyn and Labour's fault, not the chaps you voted for. Completely on Labour this.

 

Fucks sake.

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5 hours ago, moof said:

It’s not really about “the optics”, is it, it’s about democracy. Ken fucking Clarke... dear god 

Democracy has been hijacked by the far right, it's going to take something out of the ordinary to stop them in their tracks before they do too much damage.  I'd take Thatcher being dug up for two weeks to prevent a no deal Brexit. 

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36 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

 

Of all the daft commentary on Corbyn over the years being unpalatable to Tory MPs as a reason to step aside is up there in stupidity. 

 

Not many of you seem to be able to grasp it though do you?  A Tory MP rebelling to put Corbyn in power loses his seat next election.  

 

Corbyn and others on here have made a  big deal of the party not being able to back Remain for fear of losing seats.  This is the same thing. 

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Really, the idea that these fucking pricks get to say who holds the broom at this point is utterly ludicrous, especially when their objection is "Corbyn in charge for two weeks is just as bad as no-deal", which is obviously absurd.

 

Sick of pandering to these clowns and the nutty outfit they're part of.

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6 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Ignore the names and look at the job titles.

 

Is there anyone other than the Leader of the Opposition that is a credible leader of an interim Government?  Why are the gobshites resisting this: all he's intending to do is sit in for a couple of weeks, give them everything they claim they want, then call a General Election.

They Tories won't put Corbyn in number 10, because they'll never live it down within their own ranks. The liberals don't want him either. He can't form a new government without them without a general election, so it's a futile discussion.  He can't be pig headed about this, he has 247 MP's and needs 320. 

 

Surely at this point it is time for us to embrace the bigger picture. Corbyn has told us for a long time, his aim is a general election, so let's just go and get it. I don't understand why every single person within the labour party would not want to employ a strategy that brings us to an election and most importantly of all, avoids the national disaster of a no deal brexit. 

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1 hour ago, Duff Man said:

Really, the idea that these fucking pricks get to say who holds the broom at this point is utterly ludicrous, especially when their objection is "Corbyn in charge for two weeks is just as bad as no-deal", which is obviously absurd.

 

Sick of pandering to these clowns and the nutty outfit they're part of.

JC lost the last election. How is he best to do the job now?  

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7 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

JC lost the last election. How is he best to do the job now?  

I genuinely wonder whether you are just trolling now to be honest, Rico. You are aware that nobody won the last election other than the Tories.

 

He is the duly elected leader of the opposition and at the last election he gained 262 seats whereas the others potentially in a Brexit-avoidance consensus have 50-odd between them all , and he is the leader of a party that , along with the Tories, have provided every PM since 1935.

 

I might turn the question around and ask why anybody is particularly worried about Swinson's musings when she brings @ 7% of the MP's he does.

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