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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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59 minutes ago, chevettehs said:

I don't get the point he's trying to make. People who don't like what Jeremy Corbyn is doing like someone who says we should do the opposite, isn't that what you would expect to happen?

Owen Jones seems like a total prick, so it’s easy to see why he’s confused that anyone might want to hold a different opinion to himself. 

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1 hour ago, chevettehs said:

I don't get the point he's trying to make. People who don't like what Jeremy Corbyn is doing like someone who says we should do the opposite, isn't that what you would expect to happen?

He’s talking about the people who say Corbyn isn’t doing enough to stop brexit wanking themselves silly over this freaky posh cunt, even though he wants a harder brexit. He’s talking about how gullible and/or fickle and/or dishonest these supposed hardline remainers are, who just seem to be anti-Corbyn for the sake of it, not based on any substantive reasoning 

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1 hour ago, chevettehs said:

I don't get the point he's trying to make. People who don't like what Jeremy Corbyn is doing like someone who says we should do the opposite, isn't that what you would expect to happen?

The FBPE twats accuse Corbyn of being a secret Brexiteer and champion Rory Stewart because he’s apparently a staunch remainer.... despite their voting records.

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Corbyn's policy as I see it is to seek a GE but if that fails go for a second public vote on any deal. 

Lets assume the Tories hang on then what happens if there is no deal on the table come October ? Do we crash out , support a second in/out referendum or does he propose revoking A50 ? It's just not credible clear or coherent once you accept he isn't going get his GE due to arithmetic on any no confidence motion.

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18 hours ago, viRdjil said:

The FBPE twats accuse Corbyn of being a secret Brexiteer and champion Rory Stewart because he’s apparently a staunch remainer.... despite their voting records.

 

Corbyn is accused of being a "secret" Brexiteer precisely because of his voting record (Voted to leave the EEC in 1975; voted against Maastricht in 1993; voted against the Lisbon Treaty in 2008; etc), and also because his brother says he's privately opposed to Britain's membership of the EU.

 

And where are these FBPErs championing Rory Stewart?

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Good old Honest Nige  ..

 

 

Nigel Farage's Brexit Party has been told to check all £2.5 million donated to it to ensure it hasn't accepted cash from foreign donors.

The Party will be required to satisfy itself that every single £25 'supporter' fee was not from an impermissible source.

If they can't, they'll have to either return it to the donor or hand it over to the Treasury.

The Electoral Commission last week confirmed the party’s online payment system put them at ‘high and ongoing risk’ of allowing overseas cash to be donated.

It came after a Mirror investigation found loopholes on the party’s website which could allow foreign money to pour into the party without being traceable.

And Parliament's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee today published the full details of their investigation and recommendations made to the party.

 

The first recommendation, marked "High Risk – to be implemented as soon as possible", is to review all payments, including those of £500 or below, to ensure all of it is from permissible donors.

If the party has accepted such donations, they must be returned and reported to the Electoral Commission.

 
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2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Unless I’ve badly misjudged the situation, Jeremy Corbyn isn’t in the running for the Tory leadership. Rory Stewart is, however. And so is Boris Johnson. I know which of those two I’d prefer. Not that it matters, posh-Trump is going to win. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

THAT is fuckin’ terrifying. 

Indeed.

I've been hearing/reading rumours that the Tory allies of BJ are going to lend votes to rig things so the final two are Hunt and BJ and so the latter wins. 

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22 hours ago, magicrat said:

Corbyn's policy as I see it is to seek a GE but if that fails go for a second public vote on any deal. 

Lets assume the Tories hang on then what happens if there is no deal on the table come October ? Do we crash out , support a second in/out referendum or does he propose revoking A50 ? It's just not credible clear or coherent once you accept he isn't going get his GE due to arithmetic on any no confidence motion.

Or if he gets a GE what's in the Lab manifesto? Referendum or take May's deal?

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1 hour ago, mattyq said:

Or if he gets a GE what's in the Lab manifesto? Referendum or take May's deal?

Who knows , which is the problem.  I hear that in tomorrow's shadow cabinet meeting JC will get close to swinging behind a second vote under all circumstances .  I expect Labour will inevitably become the Remain party like it or not; their current fudged position is as clear as mud despite what Corbyn keeps repeating. 

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1 hour ago, Pistonbroke said:

Indeed.

I've been hearing/reading rumours that the Tory allies of BJ are going to lend votes to rig things so the final two are Hunt and BJ and so the latter wins. 

Who would have thought the PCP would try and rig an election. 

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8 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

Corbyn is accused of being a "secret" Brexiteer precisely because of his voting record (Voted to leave the EEC in 1975; voted against Maastricht in 1993; voted against the Lisbon Treaty in 2008; etc), and also because his brother says he's privately opposed to Britain's membership of the EU.

 

And where are these FBPErs championing Rory Stewart?

This annoying cunt.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

If pointing out that only one in five Tory leadership contenders is being remotely realistic counts as "championing", then that is a very low bar you're setting.

I just posted his latest tweet about him. Rory Stewart is a legit #fbpe darling.

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On 17/06/2019 at 20:52, magicrat said:

 It's just not credible clear or coherent once you accept he isn't going get his GE due to arithmetic on any no confidence motion.

Labour - or any party - can have any policy they want if they're resigned to not getting a General Election; what the Opposition wants is only slightly relevant; you've got to get into government before you can determine the country's foreign policy. 

 

If Labour were to force a GE and win it, the policy (as I understand it) is to try to negotiate a Brexit that minimises the damage that comes with any form of Brexit; they are then open to a second referendum - Labour’s deal or Remain - at that time  (but it makes no sense to commit to a second referendum right now;  let's see how the land lies when and if the time comes.)

 

As long as Labour is in Opposition, all they can really do is keep thwarting No Deal and any ruinous Tory Brexit.  So far, so good.

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