Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Cunt Macron arguing for May's date of 30th June. Literally nothing will be resolved by then, because nothing will be resolved without a General Election and/or another referendum.  The idea of a flexible extension of up to a year is the only one that makes sense. 

[Dr Nowt]

Delayed until October 31st. If May agrees to it.

 

MV4 tomorrow?

[M_B]

She'd need to make it different in some way.

[Dr Nowt]

Aye, wasn’t serious mate.

[Strontium]

Halloween as a deadline seems grimly appropriate for this interminable horror show. 

[Dr Nowt]

British people knocking on their neighbours’ doors with hands out asking for charitable donations, and trick or treat.

[Pureblood]

I'll be celebrating by playing ducky apple with Great British apples hand selected for Asda by Gnasher. 

[Strontium]

[Babb'sBurstNad]

2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Cunt Macron arguing for May's date of 30th June. Literally nothing will be resolved by then, because nothing will be resolved without a General Election and/or another referendum.  The idea of a flexible extension of up to a year is the only one that makes sense. 

Seems a very long time ago he was being held up as some kind of progressive, nice guy face of new French politics. I guess compared to Le Pen anyone would seem decent.

[Moctezuma]

4 hours ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

Delayed until October 31st. If May agrees to it.

 

MV4 tomorrow?

Notable that the 'talks with Labour seem to be hitting the buffers, it was a useful PR exercise for the E.U.s and public  consumption. Also the release of the date this late in the day means that she gets to beat the usual press run of headlines that define what the right think about the extension (I.e. the Mail, Express and Telegraph screaming Traitor at their doughy readers). 

[skend04]

This is turning into the slowest longest death scene ever. And she's backtracked on quitting too.

[skend04]

8 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Cunt Macron arguing for May's date of 30th June. Literally nothing will be resolved by then, because nothing will be resolved without a General Election and/or another referendum.  The idea of a flexible extension of up to a year is the only one that makes sense. 

And we're not cunts? We've got 2 leaders so far out of their depths, beholden to an opinion poll held 3 years ago. It's embarrassing. We'll still be here in 6 months time. If I was Macron I'd have been saying the same and if it was another country trying this schtick the UK would have been saying the same too.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Here's some hope - and a strong case for the "Socialists" who share platforms with Farridge to abandon their absurd Lexit fantasies.

 

If (as expected) Labour performs well in the European elections, we could finally see some movement away from EU neoliberalism.  The ideal would be a UK Government led by Corbyn (incidentally, far from "out of his depth") stopping Brexit and assuming a leadership role in a post-Merkel and post-Macron EU. 

 

That's the prize.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-meps-eu-elections-europe-socialists-commission-a8863191.html

[Numero Veinticinco]

54 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Here's some hope - and a strong case for the "Socialists" who share platforms with Farridge to abandon their absurd Lexit fantasies.

 

If (as expected) Labour performs well in the European elections, we could finally see some movement away from EU neoliberalism.  The ideal would be a UK Government led by Corbyn (incidentally, far from "out of his depth") stopping Brexit and assuming a leadership role in a post-Merkel and post-Macron EU. 

 

That's the prize.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-meps-eu-elections-europe-socialists-commission-a8863191.html

Seems like pure fantasy to me. 

[Barrington Womble]

11 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Cunt Macron arguing for May's date of 30th June. Literally nothing will be resolved by then, because nothing will be resolved without a General Election and/or another referendum.  The idea of a flexible extension of up to a year is the only one that makes sense. 

Macron fell for that Mogg bullshit abot disruption, which was exactly the plan in the hope it would get the EU to hoof us on the original 12th April date. Macron appears as unskilled as May. 

2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Here's some hope - and a strong case for the "Socialists" who share platforms with Farridge to abandon their absurd Lexit fantasies.

 

If (as expected) Labour performs well in the European elections, we could finally see some movement away from EU neoliberalism.  The ideal would be a UK Government led by Corbyn (incidentally, far from "out of his depth") stopping Brexit and assuming a leadership role in a post-Merkel and post-Macron EU. 

 

That's the prize.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-meps-eu-elections-europe-socialists-commission-a8863191.html

I don't think there's a hope in hell of any of that, it's just fanciful. 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

3 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Here's some hope - and a strong case for the "Socialists" who share platforms with Farridge to abandon their absurd Lexit fantasies.

 

If (as expected) Labour performs well in the European elections, we could finally see some movement away from EU neoliberalism.  The ideal would be a UK Government led by Corbyn (incidentally, far from "out of his depth") stopping Brexit and assuming a leadership role in a post-Merkel and post-Macron EU. 

 

That's the prize.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-meps-eu-elections-europe-socialists-commission-a8863191.html

 

2 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Seems like pure fantasy to me. 

i would have gone with Double Fantasy, but there yer go

 

[Anubis]

Extension until October. How many times will she be able to try and shoehorn her deal through between now and then?

[Dr Nowt]

Leadsom taking about the Offensive Weapons Act with Francois sat making himself heard as usual.

[SasaS]

3 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Here's some hope - and a strong case for the "Socialists" who share platforms with Farridge to abandon their absurd Lexit fantasies.

 

If (as expected) Labour performs well in the European elections, we could finally see some movement away from EU neoliberalism.  The ideal would be a UK Government led by Corbyn (incidentally, far from "out of his depth") stopping Brexit and assuming a leadership role in a post-Merkel and post-Macron EU. 

 

That's the prize.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-meps-eu-elections-europe-socialists-commission-a8863191.html

With ECB's quantitative easing, common agricultural policy, worker's protection rights mostly above the standard in individual member states, European structural and other funds, strict environmental and other regulation, strong bureaucracy etc. it's difficult to see what else would these new non neo-liberals introduce.

They can do away with state aid regulation, competition protection and stability and growth rules, which are just about the best things EU offers. Without it, you'd have governments pumping made up money into their respective national champions fighting to achieve monopoly in other countries eventually destroying all the benefits of the common market.

[Remmie]

The year is 2464 & the EU have performed the half yearly ritual of extending the Brexit deadline. 

 

No one knows what Brexit is or where it came from... 

 

[Red Phoenix]

22 minutes ago, Remmie said:

The year is 2464 & the EU have performed the half yearly ritual of extending the Brexit deadline. 

 

No one knows what Brexit is or where it came from... 

 

...and it's increasingly less known as each year passes that veggie discs and veggie tubes used to be called veggie burgers and veggie sausages.

 

Meanwhile, Bercow's ancient tie collection fetches 10mil on ebay. Bercow was around at the start of the Brexit saga and his often colourful, and sometimes sickening, ties were a regular fixture in parliament. We still struggle to understand why so many people put up with wearing ties for so long, but thankfully that saga mostly came to an end a couple of hundred years back when an EU law passed declaring that workers were free to wear whatever the fuck they wanted to work, as long as it was within reason, and ties became known as an archaic symbol of oppression.

 

So fuck Bercow's ties, and the idiot who paid so much for them.

[TheHowieLama]

This thing is a bit of a RiS up

[Boss]

5 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Here's some hope - and a strong case for the "Socialists" who share platforms with Farridge to abandon their absurd Lexit fantasies.

 

If (as expected) Labour performs well in the European elections, we could finally see some movement away from EU neoliberalism.  The ideal would be a UK Government led by Corbyn (incidentally, far from "out of his depth") stopping Brexit and assuming a leadership role in a post-Merkel and post-Macron EU. 

 

That's the prize.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-meps-eu-elections-europe-socialists-commission-a8863191.html

You are clearly away with the fairies if you think the labour party are going to change the EU from within and make the whole bloc a Marxist left wing superstate ran by Jeremy Corbyn. That's the most insane thing I've ever read on here and I've read everything Simon used to post.

 

What the actual fuck? 

[Barrington Womble]

3 hours ago, Anubis said:

Extension until October. How many times will she be able to try and shoehorn her deal through between now and then?

the sad thing is, watch them fall back to their normal parliamentary timetable. they'll have easter holidays, fake talk to labour for a week or two about brexit, then we'll get weeks of election campaigning for the european elections. she'll chuck in a quick vote on her deal, before they all fuck off on 6 weeks holiday. then they'll return in september to an "of fuck, where did that 6 months go", we'll have a bit of panic, before she rolls the dice one more time with MV5. Then back off to brussells for an extension while yvette cooper tries to panic something else though parliment to stop no deal. 

[Gnasher]

On 09/04/2019 at 22:22, TK421 said:

Your "EU is a failing Superstate" argument is better than your "immigrants terk er jerbs" one.   I don't agree with either, but at least the former isn't tinged with the nasty whiff of xenophobia. 

If you read the report the the people who suffer most from immigration are the poor and immigrants who have recently arrived.