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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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More bullying and intimidation coming from Tory party extremists;

https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/17536443.beaconsfield-mp-dominic-grieve-could-be-ousted-at-tory-party-agm/

 

Hardline Remainer Dominic Grieve is facing deselection at an AGM of the Conservative party in Gerrards Cross.

More than 100 Tory members are set to gather at the Crowne Plaza tonight (Friday) to oppose a confidence vote against the former Attorney General that will take place via a secret ballot.

 

 

 

 

Or is it only bullying when the left do it ? 

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Faisal IslamVerified account @faisalislam 20m20 minutes ago

Minister tells me of a meeting of ministers with the PM in Downing St now following the third defeat of her Withdrawal Agreement... not about standing down but significant, nonetheless.

 

Faisal IslamVerified account @faisalislam 10m10 minutes ago

This delegation of ministers in Downing Street is urging the PM to say no to a softer Brexit and to go for No Deal Brexit

 

Ha ha ha.

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1 hour ago, SasaS said:

So, if 30 out of 34 Eurosceptic Conservatives voted with May, the deal would have passed even without the DUP.

They effectively voted for staying longer in the EU and ultimately leaving with much closer ties to the EU or not at all. And rejecting the chance to force May into resigning and electing a new party leader and PM more to their liking.

I don't get it.

One theory is better an extension than May's Brexit this is argued by a QC who works with the DUP and ERG. Full article below. 

 

Key points:

  • A short Article 50 extension of under 3 months would make no practical difference and fear of one is not a reason for backing the deal.
  • A long extension of 21 months would have the same practical result as the “implementation” period in the deal, except the UK would be much better off than under the deal because we would still have a vote and representation in EU institutions and the European Parliament.
  • Unlike the deal, we would be free to leave on 1st January 2021 without being trapped in the “backstop” Protocol.
  • Our financial liabilities during the 21 month extension would be the same as under the deal, but unlike the deal, we would have no obligations afterwards.
  • Unlike under the deal, we would not be subject to indefinite ECJ jurisdiction after 2020.
  • We would not be subject to EU state aid controls after 2020, nor to Commission and ECJ “long tail” powers after that date.
  • We could line up international trade deals to come into force from 1st January 2021. Under the deal, we could not do this because the backstop Protocol and the commitments on tariffs we have made in the Political Declaration mean we could not assure negotiating partners that we would be in a position to implement deals with them.
  • We would have more time to prepare for a “no deal” Brexit, enhancing our negotiating power with the EU, and also more time to develop and deploy alternative customs control methods on goods crossing the Irish border.
  • An Article 50 extension is obviously being used as a ‘Trojan horse’ by Remainers and referendum-deniers who want to reverse Brexit. But Brexit supporters should not be swayed by that into supporting Theresa May’s deal which would poison Brexit and create a situation so bad that calls to re-enter the EU would grow in order at least to have a vote on all the areas where we will be rule-takers from Brussels

 

https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2019/03/martin-howe-it-is-far-better-to-risk-extending-article-50-than-to-accept-mays-bad-deal.html

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2 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Hardly any BBC coverage on the peoples vote march last week but they have shit loads of footage of the Brexit lot today with a fucking Orange Flute Band playing. Fuck the BBC 

Stirring stuff

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