Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[SasaS]

And if the people vote the same again? Back to the parliament which does not have the majority for any of the proposals.

[Pureblood]

6 minutes ago, SasaS said:

And if the people vote the same again? Back to the parliament which does not have the majority for any of the proposals.

It's a mess that will last for generations.  Even if matters are resolved one way or another it will rumble on and on, dominating political discourse for decades to come. 

[magicrat]

7 minutes ago, SasaS said:

And if the people vote the same again? Back to the parliament which does not have the majority for any of the proposals.

If it were binding then that would be that and accepted by and large

[Pureblood]

Wrong thread.

[SasaS]

Wrong thread.

[SasaS]

8 minutes ago, magicrat said:

If it were binding then that would be that and accepted by and large

But this wouldn't solve anything, the only solution the second referendum can offer is if the people vote remain.

 

[Scooby Dudek]

6 minutes ago, SasaS said:

But this wouldn't solve anything, the only solution the second referendum can offer is if the people vote remain.

 

I think the idea would be to vote on;

 

Approve Government deal or Remain

 

If legally binding we would either leave on the current deal, that the EU have agreed to or we would remain. 

[magicrat]

10 minutes ago, SasaS said:

But this wouldn't solve anything, the only solution the second referendum can offer is if the people vote remain.

 

Mays deal or remain and it would be binding. Majority would accept the result ; even I would if it went in favour of her abortion of a deal. 

[Pureblood]

I'm well up for a second referendum.  Sorry for the football analogy but the leave lot are like Everton fans.  The slightest sense of injustice sends them into a blind rage, it would be beautiful to behold. 

[SasaS]

And is it likely to have only May's deal vs. remain on the ballot?

[Mudface]

4 minutes ago, SasaS said:

And is it likely to have only May's deal vs. remain on the ballot?

It couldn't really have no deal on it as well, there'd be uproar from the leave side as their vote would be split between the two options.

[Mudface]

Looks like May's fucked if the 'Twitter commentariat' (ugh, what a horrible term, but better than self-important pricks I suppose) is to be believed.

[SasaS]

There would be an uproar anyway, because you would be asking them to either vote for a deal many of them don't want, or accept remaining in the EU, which they think they already defeated in the first referendum. It would be like asking the public if they want May's deal or crash out with no deal.

[Mudface]

Yep, can't see a way out of it, to be honest. It's not even as if there's likely to be a majority in favour of a public vote, let alone what would be on the ballot.

[Scott_M]

https://twitter.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/1105423352733282304?s=21

[magicrat]

33 minutes ago, Mudface said:

It couldn't really have no deal on it as well, there'd be uproar from the leave side as their vote would be split between the two options.

I doubt many of their side could count to three

[skend04]

The Withdrawal Agreement is Brexit though. It's literally the process of leaving the EU as 51.9% of the voters wanted. If they still want Brexit they should back it, not wonder where a 'No Deal' option is that was never discussed in the campaign.

[Anubis]

FT journo saying the DUP will vote against, not abstain. ERG saying they’ll do same.

[Denny Crane]

When Chris Grayling is your consigliere...

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Mudface said:

Yep, can't see a way out of it, to be honest. It's not even as if there's likely to be a majority in favour of a public vote, let alone what would be on the ballot.

The only way out I can see is a General Election  (which some bloke from the 1922 Committee was saying would follow May's defeat, as night follows day). We would then have to hope for a Labour Government, who could postpone A50 while they negotiate their deal, which could then be put to a "Leave on these terms or Remain" referendum.

[Mudface]

Yes, although the Tories are stubbornly stuck on around 40% in the opinion polls and have been for quite a while. They might also get a boost if they replace May (which is likely), so even if Labour poll around the same as last time, we'd still probably end up with a hung parliament. What a mess.

[magicrat]

I liked the comment that at this crucial time for May and Brexit she gets a frog stuck in her throat

[Babb'sBurstNad]

1 hour ago, Denny Crane said:

When Chris Grayling is your consigliere...

 

 

 

 

Chris Grayling's performance as a politician would make more sense if he were a Russian agent, sent to destroy us from within.

[Trumo]

Was Rory Stewart the sloth victim from Se7en?

[magicrat]

32 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Chris Grayling's performance as a politician would make more sense if he were a Russian agent, sent to destroy us from within.

They wouldn't send an imbecile