Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Megadrive Man]

James O'Brien made a good, albeit potentially dangerous suggestion. A second referendum, but with either No deal or No Brexit the options.

 

Whatever the result, politicians could save face by saying that they are not to blame for the outcome.

 

The worrying thing is, It genuinely wouldn't surprise me to see No deal win!  

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

James O'Brien made a good, albeit potentially dangerous suggestion. A second referendum, but with either No deal or No Brexit the options.

 

Whatever the result, politicians could save face by saying that they are not to blame for the outcome.

 

The worrying thing is, It genuinely wouldn't surprise me to see No deal win!  

An abdication like that would make you wonder what MPs are paid for.

[Strontium]

7 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

James O'Brien made a good, albeit potentially dangerous suggestion. A second referendum, but with either No deal or No Brexit the options. 

 

I'd be happy with that. Whichever one won, it would be what the country deserved.

[Creator Supreme]

I think we have to leave now, there'd be civil war if we stayed in. If we have a second referendum the only 2 choices would have to be 1) Leave with May's deal (however shit it may be) or 2) Leave with No Deal.

 

I say that as somebody who would have voted remain if I was on the electoral register at the time.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Creator Supreme said:

I think we have to leave now, there'd be civil war if we stayed in. If we have a second referendum the only 2 choices would have to be 1) Leave with May's deal (however shit it may be) or 2) Leave with No Deal.

 

I say that as somebody who would have voted remain if I was on the electoral register at the time.

A civil war. I highly doubt it.

[Creator Supreme]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

A civil war. I highly doubt it.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if enough right wing loons got their dander up. Civil unrest at the very least!

[cloggypop]

I don't want to come over all Anny Road but I reckon I could well snot a couple of pensioners. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

I don't want to come over all Anny Road but I reckon I could well snot a couple of pensioners. 

I’m with the blacks. 

 

[skend04]

https://www.ft.com/content/c44581c2-1a75-11e9-9e64-d150b3105d21?fbclid=IwAR2sL8It5pBrZ913mnk9Aid9bDHG_4qwTEAiNESWdzR-0JZlDj_JErGYj98

 

Give it a few days of Brexit and we'll be begging to join up the Euro and Schengen. 

[Megadrive Man]

27 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

I think we have to leave now, there'd be civil war if we stayed in. If we have a second referendum the only 2 choices would have to be 1) Leave with May's deal (however shit it may be) or 2) Leave with No Deal.

 

I say that as somebody who would have voted remain if I was on the electoral register at the time.

 

I did think that but its clear that nobody really wants Mays half in/out deal. 

 

The No Deal or No Brexit option is how I always interpreted the first referendum anyway. I never thought we'd get a better deal, and I expected us to leave the single market and customs union if we left. 

 

The only alternatives I can see to this, are crashing out with no deal, or at the last minute mps will agree to a very marginally adjusted version of Mays deal, solely to avoid crashing out.

 

A General Election won't happen as May is safe as party leader for 12 months and even the hardest brexiteers won't risk a Corbyn government whatever their views.  

[Megadrive Man]

49 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

An abdication like that would make you wonder what MPs are paid for.

 

Agreed! 

[Barrington Womble]

7 hours ago, Scooby Dudek said:

He is another one who is given free publicity, which keeps him in the public eye. Entire speech of a back bench M.P. shown live on Sky. 

 

They don't report the news, they shape it.

It was live on bbc2 too. And he was mostly completely unchallenged. Asked questions but would answer a different question and the press just let it go. 

[Liverpool lad]

I see Brexit is going extremely well

 

Can we have somebody put forward their argument of what they 'won'? I am just curious to see when I can reap all the benefits

[magicrat]

43 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

I think we have to leave now, there'd be civil war if we stayed in. If we have a second referendum the only 2 choices would have to be 1) Leave with May's deal (however shit it may be) or 2) Leave with No Deal.

 

I say that as somebody who would have voted remain if I was on the electoral register at the time.

Remain will be on any ballot . Sure there will be civil unrest but neo Nazi's will be mostly to blame. There have been organised peaceful protests from Remainers since the vote and millions have been part of that including myself. I feel cheated by all the antics last time from people like Farage and Banks taking dodgy money and getting help from Russia. I feel cheated because ex-pats and EU citizens settled here had no vote and perhaps worst of all 16 year olds whose future was being decided for them, were denied a say. Despite all this I haven't spat in anyone's face,  punched women , abused non-white , killed an MP or abused politicians outside Parliament. I have spoken to a few and made reasoned points even when they hold different views. If Brexit is reversed then Leavers are quite entitled to protest peacefully as some who don't accept it will . Why should we take into account cunts that want to breach the peace to make their points. We should be locking them up not running scared, 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I've always fancied taking on some Romero type zombie hordes, so a civil war against the OAPs sounds alright to me. Having seen some in the QT audience, I reckon a Nerf gun could finish a few off.

[cloggypop]

5 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I've always fancied taking on some Romero type zombie hordes, so a civil war against the OAPs sounds alright to me. Having seen some in the QT audience, I reckon a Nerf gun could finish a few off.

Do it Russian style and fight them in winter. 

[Thoth]

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Labour MP Mike Gapes has blasted Corbyn on Twitter for talking to Hamas but not being prepared to talk to May, re: Brexit. 

 

Mike Gapes also did this...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/aug/13/foreignpolicy.israel

 

[Creator Supreme]

18 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Labour MP Mike Gapes has blasted Corbyn on Twitter for talking to Hamas but not being prepared to talk to May, re: Brexit. 

 

Mike Gapes also did this...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/aug/13/foreignpolicy.israel

 

So you're saying he's a lying two faced cunt then?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

8 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

So you're saying he's a lying two faced cunt then?

You may draw whatever inferences from my post as you see fit* 

 

*yes, I am. 

 

 

[Gnasher]

Cameron, Boris, Corbyn, Osborne, Farage etc stop playing the man and start playing the ball.

 

Personality politics leads to the door of the daily Star.

 

Anyway here's a link to a former labour manifesto that someone pretended to be interested in earlier 

 

http://www.politicsresources.net/area/uk/man/lab83.htm#Common

 

 

Anyone care to debate the merits of the document?  

 

[Gnasher]

You cannot put a tick to a organization that promotes privatization and condones austerity. It really is in my eyes that simple, but maybe I'm being to simplistic. It just dosnt rub easy.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

A civil war. I highly doubt it.

The Far Right would come on all "only bullets can stop us" and we'll bury them beneath a hail of bananas.

 

Again.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

21 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

You cannot put a tick to a organization that promotes privatization and condones austerity. It really is in my eyes that simple, but maybe I'm being to simplistic. It just dosnt rub easy.

Do you vote in General Elections?

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, AngryofTuebrook said:

The Far Right would come on all "only bullets can stop us" and we'll bury them beneath a hail of bananas.

 

Again.

Rolling up in their wheelchairs, on their Zimmer frames, and with their skinhead nephew. I think we’ll survive.