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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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6 minutes ago, moof said:

When he was actually given a fair hearing during the election campaign he won back more seats than anyone thought possible and decimated the Tory majority. If he hadn’t we’d probably be even more fucked than we currently are. 

And still lost, against the worst Govt in living memory, he’ll never win a GE, not ever

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4 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Would someone like Burgon or Lewis be more popular?

 

*I have no angle to this at all, genuinely interested in opinions. I'd happily replace him with a socialist that was a more competent politician (and did have as much stuff that could be used against him by the cunt press).

I’d have a bit of Clive Lewis, not sure how ready he is to lead. McDonnell is an obvious choice but carries the same “baggage” as Corbyn. Any genuine democratic socialist candidate will be fighting an uphill battle against the cunt press, the cunt capitalist ruling class and the cunt public who swallow any old shite they’re fed

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1 minute ago, Nelly-Torres said:

May has already refused to take no deal off the table. 

 

This will go nowhere. Maybe another no confidence vote if Labour can persuade some of the Tory remainers, imploring them to avoid the disaster of a no deal Brexit. 

Her idea of reaching out for a compromise is for everyone to agree to her deal and red lines. Those engaging with her should just be very wary that her only objective here is to shift the blame and keep the Tories together. She's trying to drag this out now without an agreed position ever being reached so we can fall out by accident without it being perceived as an active government policy. It's the only position that keeps the Tory party together.

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1 minute ago, moof said:

I’d have a bit of Clive Lewis, not sure how ready he is to lead. McDonnell is an obvious choice but carries the same “baggage” as Corbyn. Any genuine democratic socialist candidate will be fighting an uphill battle against the cunt press, the cunt capitalist ruling class and the cunt public who swallow any old shite they’re fed

McDonnell is the obvious choice. Fucking hell, are you on drugs?

 

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7 minutes ago, moof said:

I’d have a bit of Clive Lewis, not sure how ready he is to lead. McDonnell is an obvious choice but carries the same “baggage” as Corbyn. Any genuine democratic socialist candidate will be fighting an uphill battle against the cunt press, the cunt capitalist ruling class and the cunt public who swallow any old shite they’re fed

Has to be of the next generation. 

 

All of Corbyn's has the same baggage.

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I often see the can't beat the worse government etc. But there is a bit of rewriting of history going on. When May was appointed she was lauded by the mainstream media as taking the centre and had a huge honeymoon. Check back to some of the articles for her first few months in charge and they make for astonishing reading. They all tipped her for a 100 plus seat majority. There was a reason she called an election like.

 

Secondly it's a bit like in football when an opponent performs badly is it them or have the opposition nullified their strengths. Corbyns Labour have dominated the public discourse on austerity, wages, public services and housing, homelessness, tuition fees etc. Corbyn has come up against experienced politicians like Burnham and Cooper etc who all failed to shine and May also. Bit of a coincidence. 

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4 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

If there is no chance of a genuine socialist who gives a shit about human beings getting elected I'd rather Trump and Putin just pushed the button.

 

If a persistent neo-liberal shit fest is the only choice it's a choice not worth having! Just nuke the world and let the cockroaches take over!

That's the state of politics now, frustrating isn't it? 

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Lol.

 

 

 

Theresa May 'a more popular leader than 

Thatcher or Blair during their best years,' opinion poll reveals

 

EXCLUSIVE: May’s lead matches 1983 landslide which saw Thatcher win a 144-seat majority

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tories-with-huge-poll-lead-over-jeremy-corbyns-labour-poll-reveals-a3524136.html%3famp

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4 minutes ago, Kieve Kev said:

Politics, society in general, social media... the list goes on. 

What do you mean society in general?  We are better off, healthier and have more opportunities than at any other time in history.  There’s billions of people who are happy. Just because you are

miserable doesn’t mean everyone is. 

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9 minutes ago, rico1304 said:

What do you mean society in general?  We are better off, healthier and have more opportunities than at any other time in history.  There’s billions of people who are happy. Just because you are

miserable doesn’t mean everyone is. 

We are all up to our eyes in debt and 2 or 3 wage packets from homelessness. 

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