Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Boss]

Patrick Minford the former economic advisor to Margaret Thatcher. God help us all. 

[rubble-rouser]

Didn't all these Tories say that economists don't know what they are talking about?

 

They literally just did say that - 'except these ones here' - it's Trumpist, anti-intellectual, anti-human death cult dogshit. 

 

Kill the poor and take the spoils. 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

Johnson, the thin cunt & co are now sharing a platform with Patrick Minford. Giving that anti-scouse fucking weirdo economic credibility.  

 

Trying to argue that no deal is a good idea. 

 

These people have already caused deaths. 

 

They are fucking psychopaths. 

[aRdja]

 

When you put it like that, it’s difficult to make a case for Remain IMO.

[Anubis]

If only it wasn't completely made up.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

MORE PROJECT FEAR!

 

On a serious note, why are we still voluntarily heading headlong into what is going to be an absolutely destructive event for the country?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/11/brexit-tens-of-thousands-of-jobs-at-risk-jaguar-land-rover-boss-tells-pm

[cloggypop]

 

When you put it like that, it’s difficult to make a case for Remain IMO.

I'm sure all the off shore banking profits will drip down to the unemployed masses.

[Gnasher]

This is in response to a post which consists of facts. You find facts "delusional".

 

That is all.

 

God do you really believe the reason for peace after world war 2 was because of the Eu?

[Scooby Dudek]

MORE PROJECT FEAR!

 

On a serious note, why are we still voluntarily heading headlong into what is going to be an absolutely destructive event for the country?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/11/brexit-tens-of-thousands-of-jobs-at-risk-jaguar-land-rover-boss-tells-pm

So we can control the colour of our passports.

 

The irony being once the country is destroyed economically no EU citizens will want to come here to work, so it is a win, win.

[Strontium]

On a serious note, why are we still voluntarily heading headlong into what is going to be an absolutely destructive event for the country?

Because practically 90% of the country voted for parties whose manifestoes committed them to exiting the single market?

[Moo]

MORE PROJECT FEAR!

 

On a serious note, why are we still voluntarily heading headlong into what is going to be an absolutely destructive event for the country?

 

 

Because its a once in a lifetime opportunity for the Tories, particularly the worst elements of, to realise their wet dreams. They won't give that up without a fight.

[Jenson]

Because practically 90% of the country voted for parties whose manifestoes committed them to exiting the single market?

 

There's something about manifesto commitments, tuition fees and the Lib Dems I can't quite put my finger on.

 

{Just a joke SD}

[Boss]

Who prefers Chequers and who prefers No Deal?

[Strontium]

There's something about manifesto commitments, tuition fees and the Lib Dems I can't quite put my finger on.

 

{Just a joke SD}

The whole situation here is an absolute joke to be honest. Most Labour voters want Labour to break their manifesto commitments around leaving the EU. It's a heck of a double standard.

[Anubis]

Can Jacob show us his Countdown-style working out as to how he came to that figure? Jacob? Jacob?

[No2]

Why all the hassle of endless negotiating if £1.1 trillion is stuffed behind a couch somewhere? Seems to me all this talking is just delaying the golden goose.

[Numero Veinticinco]

The whole situation here is an absolute joke to be honest. Most Labour voters want Labour to break their manifesto commitments around leaving the EU. It's a heck of a double standard.

You know, it’s alright to disagree with the party and want them to change in the upcoming election. Their previous manifesto isn’t something they’re beholden to because they didn’t win. The problem comes when you get into power, and people want it, and you don’t deliver.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

God do you really believe the reason for peace after world war 2 was because of the Eu?

Nobody with any understanding of history would go along with your notion that it's just a curious little coincidence that no Member States have so much as threatened to go to war with each other in 61 years.

[Rico1304]

Good article dissecting the bollocks from JRM

 

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/09/11/the-garbled-nonsense-of-jacob-rees-mogg-s-new-press-release

[Gnasher]

Nobody with any understanding of history would go along with your notion that it's just a curious little coincidence that no Member States have so much as threatened to go to war with each other in 61 years.

Simply pointing out it is not a fact that the reaaon we have peace is because of the eu, as you implied.

 

The main reason for peace is imo after the second world war there was no reason or desire for further conflict, but there you go. If you believe the Eu has created some type of coca cola advert where all the little kids from Europe sit on a mountain top singing songs and drinking pop I'd be the last one interfere with the fairy tale in your head.

[Gnasher]

Nobody with any understanding of history would go along with your notion that it's just a curious little coincidence that no Member States have so much as threatened to go to war with each other in 61 years.

Meanwhile back in the real world..

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-to-join-russian-drills-in-sign-of-growing-military-ties-1536595659

[Strontium]

You know, it’s alright to disagree with the party and want them to change in the upcoming election. Their previous manifesto isn’t something they’re beholden to because they didn’t win. The problem comes when you get into power, and people want it, and you don’t deliver.

What if you're a minority partner and it's therefore literally impossible to deliver on everything in the manifesto? Yes, exactly.

 

Anyway, I look forward to Labour's next manifesto and the inevitable umming and ahhing over the inevitable soft Eurosceptism it will contain.

[Numero Veinticinco]

What if you're a minority partner and it's therefore literally impossible to deliver on everything in the manifesto? Yes, exactly.

All? Nah. Most crucial promises... it'd debatable. As we have done; I'd have let the Tories have a minority rather than reinforce their position. I know you wouldn't, that's valid. We just disagree.

 

Anyway, I look forward to Labour's next manifesto and the inevitable umming and ahhing over the inevitable soft Eurosceptism it will contain.

 

I think it might, because Corbyn comes from that tradition of thinking that Benn, Galloway, and others come from; and it's actually a position that's valid (not even us supporters of Europe think it's perfect) but they, in my view, do more damage than good. That said, Corbyn seems to be pretty much accepting that he can't have everything. I think it should be avoided that Labour get the blame for leaving Europe though. You know, considering it's not their fault and despite all parties campaigning against leaving, the country still voted to leave. By the time the next manifesto comes around, we will be gone. I think Corbyn will too.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Meanwhile back in the real world..

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-to-join-russian-drills-in-sign-of-growing-military-ties-1536595659

Yes, those well known EU members of Russia and Chin... hold on.

[skend04]

The Chief Executive of Jaguar Land Rover has said he doesn't even know if they'll be able to operate in the UK after Brexit. That's at least 40,000 jobs there, add to the fact that he stated it's cheaper to make their vehicles in Slovakia then it's surely goodbye to them in any major employer capacity.

 

Edit: Coventry and it's surrounds all voted leave by big majorities. The irony of their jobs going shouldn't be lost on them.