Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Kidder Bukowski]

And why is it you assume 'you' know what you're talking about is correct? Reading your posts it becomes obvious that you rush to Google to research your answers to even the most basic points then cry like the big tart you are when pulled up on it.

 

You are the epitome of the 'victim' when called out on numerous subjects yet feel free to abuse people as you see fit. The people I knew in the old Liberal party were on the whole a decent sort whereas you are just a Liberal on the Tory subs bench dying to get on.

[Anny Road]

No mate, I never have. Other than about 20 or 30 times with some deals worth £40-50m.

Then surely you know that walking away is often on the table.

[Rico1304]

I’m not suggesting there is an off the peg solution but this is where skilled negotiators would come in handy. In my opinion it would be worth the cost to pay exactly what we pay now but remove ourselves from the political union and end the free movement of people. Not because I agree with it but it is a political necessity.

Even if they fudged it and called it a 10 year transition strategy a decent leader down the line would hopefully cement it.

Again, there’s no upside for the EU and 10 years of uncertainty- all waiting for a white knight leader and round table of negotiators. Madness.

[Rico1304]

Then surely you know that walking away is often on the table.

When there’s an alternative. No deal isn’t an alternative. Knowing when to cut your losses and do nothing is a more valuable skill. If there’s no value do nothing.

 

When you voted did you honestly know there’s 700-odd deals that need sorting? Things as diverse as moving radioactive material to allow planes to take off? You think the Tories are useless but trusted them with the biggest change in a hundred years?

[Anny Road]

Again, there’s no upside for the EU and 10 years of uncertainty- all waiting for a white knight leader and round table of negotiators. Madness.

The upside for the EU is that the other 27 members don’t have to find the shortfall in the future budget that is already essentially spent.

I am sure you are aware that the EU fiscal position is a house of cards at the moment.

[Rico1304]

The upside for the EU is that the other 27 members don’t have to find the shortfall in the future budget that is already essentially spent.

I am sure you are aware that the EU fiscal position is a house of cards at the moment.

Madness.

[Anny Road]

When there’s an alternative. No deal isn’t an alternative. Knowing when to cut your losses and do nothing is a more valuable skill. If there’s no value do nothing.

When you voted did you honestly know there’s 700-odd deals that need sorting? Things as diverse as moving radioactive material to allow planes to take off? You think the Tories are useless but trusted them with the biggest change in a hundred years?

As you say biggest descion in 100 years. If we committed to it that was it. Done. For good.

At least I can get rid of a Tory or Labour MP. How do I get rid of the descion makers in Brussels?

[Strontium]

And why is it you assume 'you' know what you're talking about is correct? Reading your posts it becomes obvious that you rush to Google to research your answers to even the most basic points then cry like the big tart you are when pulled up on it.

 

You are the epitome of the 'victim' when called out on numerous subjects yet feel free to abuse people as you see fit. The people I knew in the old Liberal party were on the whole a decent sort whereas you are just a Liberal on the Tory subs bench dying to get on.

 

What the fuck are you talking about, shit-for-brains?

 

Google is no substitute for actual knowledge. Though I can well believe you are above using Google, as it's patently clear you don't do even the most cursory level of research.

 

I'll let you into a little secret - I also read books. Maybe you can criticise me for learning things from them too.

 

What is it with people wearing ignorance as a badge of honour on this forum?

[Jose Jones]

Anny Road, on 15 Nov 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

 

As you say biggest descion in 100 years. If we committed to it that was it. Done. For good.

At least I can get rid of a Tory or Labour MP. How do I get rid of the descion makers in Brussels?

Which ones? The MEP that you vote for?

Or the policy makers and negotiators that are appointed by the government voted for by the UK people?

[Rico1304]

We’ve still got a veto.

 

What recent law or regulation has offended or impacted you so badly?

[Strontium]

I’m not suggesting there is an off the peg solution but this is where skilled negotiators would come in handy.

 

Yeah, we don't have any of those, because we haven't needed to negotiate trade deals for about 40 years.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

400 plus Russian Twitter bot accounts were Tweeting about Brexit in the build up to the referendum.

 

May should send out a message to Pootin and scrap the whole sorry affair.

[Anny Road]

Which ones? The MEP that you vote for?

Or the policy makers and negotiators that are appointed by the government voted for by the UK people?

MEP’s have no descion making powers all they can do is rubber stamp laws proposed by the commission whose members are nominated and elected by no one.

[Anny Road]

Yeah, we don't have any of those, because we haven't needed to negotiate trade deals for about 40 years.

So we don’t trade with anyone outside the EU then?

[Strontium]

So we don’t trade with anyone outside the EU then?

 

The EU has negotiated trade deals on our behalf. That's the point.

[Anny Road]

We’ve still got a veto.

What recent law or regulation has offended or impacted you so badly?

Off the top of my head VAT on Fuel

Fisheries policy

[Anny Road]

The EU has negotiated trade deals on our behalf. That's the point.

You say that like it is a good thing. TTip giving US companies access to NHS tendering.

[Rico1304]

Off the top of my head VAT on Fuel

Fisheries policy

So a 10% tax on fuel and fish. All these billions spent, the 10 years of hardship and uncertainty over a couple of hundred quid and fucking fish.

[Strontium]

Off the top of my head VAT on Fuel

Fisheries policy

 

You realise that the European Commission proposed reforming the VAT regimen before the referendum, right?

 

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/action-plan-vat_en

 

At this rate, the EU is going to have 0% VAT on energy before we do.

 

What's your issue with fisheries policy?

[Anny Road]

So a 10% tax on fuel and fish. All these billions spent, the 10 years of hardship and uncertainty over a couple of hundred quid and fucking fish.

If you lived in a fishing town in the north of Scotland i’m sure Heating costs and fishing jobs would be high on your agenda.

As I have repeated stated my objection to the EU is that it is an undemocratic unaccountable club.

[Rico1304]

So a 10% tax on fuel and fish. All these billions spent, the 10 years of hardship and uncertainty over a couple of hundred quid and fucking fish.

Fucking Farage was on the fisheries committee!!! Well, when he bothered turning up!!!

 

I’m going to bed, this is depressing.

[Anny Road]

Fucking Farage was on the fisheries committee!!! Well, when he bothered turning up!!!

I’m going to bed, this is depressing.

If that is not enough reason burn the place I don’t know what is.

[Anny Road]

So a 10% tax on fuel and fish. All these billions spent, the 10 years of hardship and uncertainty over a couple of hundred quid and fucking fish.

Tell that to SD. He was arsed about his fucking strawberries going up a quid.

[Jose Jones]

Anny Road, on 15 Nov 2017 - 09:09 AM, said:

 

MEP’s have no descion making powers all they can do is rubber stamp laws proposed by the commission whose members are nominated and elected by no one.

The commission members are diplomats appointed by the member governments - one for each country.

[cloggypop]

You say that like it is a good thing. TTip giving US companies access to NHS tendering.

Pro TTIP - the UK

 

Anti TTIP - the EU